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Na'vi game: Run k(x)eyeyt
« on: July 26, 2012, 07:39:30 pm »
Hi, let's play a game. It is called Run k(x)eyeyt (Find the mistake(s)).

AYHOREN
1. One member will submit a few sentences (limit: 6 sentences).
2. Each sentence (or most of them) has one or more mistakes and your job is to find it/them.
3. If you find the mistake(s), please answer here.
4. Everyone can submit new sentences to correct when the other ones have been already corrected.
5. Please let the other members answer because they can play too.
6. You can explain your corrections if you want, it's not obligatory.
7. If the people struggle to correct your sentences, please help them.
8. Off-topic chat is forbidden.
(When the game was created, winners received a karma. It's no longer like this.)

Enjoy this game!

SENTENCES
1. Oel ngaru kameie.
2. Oel sunu Eywa'eveng.
3. Txo nga run kxeyeyi, oeru peng rutxe.

I wanna know your answers now. :)

Edit: Edited the grammar and the rules.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2014, 10:03:32 pm by Vawmataw »

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 05:50:53 am »
Well, good idea for those who want to learn!
First - some repairs to rules:
1/ Oel omum eyawra lì'fyavit.
you used agentive and patientive case correctly on nouns. But "eyawr" is adjective and these never take case endings. Instead, if it modifies noun (like here), you must add -a- suffix/prefix to the side where noun is (you can write also Oel omum lì'fyavit aeyawr)
3/ better is to say Txo tì'eyng ngeyä eyawr lu, ... If your answer is correct,.... here "eyawr" doesn't modify any noun, so -a- is not added.

And now correct phrases:
1/ Oel ngati kameie ("kame" is transitive, so object takes patientive case (-ti), not dative (-ru))
2/ Oeru sunu Eywa'eveng ("sunu" is intransitive, so object takes dative case, not patientive)
3/ Txo ngal run kxeyeyit, oeru peng rutxe (patientive case is -it, not just -i, and agentive is needed too)

To be even more correct, the last sentence should be: Txo ngal rivun kxeyeyit, oeru piveng, rutxe, but it requires more complex explanation.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 05:06:40 pm »
Good answer to Blue Elf ! I gave one karma to you.

And yes, I did not make those mistakes accidentally. I have tested your knowledge. :)

Now, new game and new instructions.

New INSTRUCTIONS
1. Run lì'fyavit hu kxeyey.
2. For the correct phrases, say why we write this phrase in this manner.
3. I send one karma for the person who find the right answer, with the rights explanations included if necessary. If you only have the right answers, no karma.

Lahe lì'fyavi:

1. Oeru lu yuey syulang.
2. Oe yom nìltsanit.
3. Ngal lu yawnet oeru.
4. Oel new naerit, rutxe.

Have a good game !
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 10:00:11 pm by Na'vi a Kepekmì »

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 07:32:28 am »
I will say the answers if nobody do not give any answer. Have a good game ! The game is above this message.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 09:05:41 am »
I'll give a try...

1. Oeru lu yuey syulang. Lu oeru lora syulang. ("Yuey" is for inner beauty, so "lor" is better, and also "-a" was missing from the adjective.)
2. Oe yom nìltsanit. Oe yom nìltsan. ("Nìltsan" is not a noun, so can't have an "-it" at the end.)
3. Ngal lu yawnet oeru. Nga lu yawne oeru. ("Lu" is intransitive, and "yawne" is an adjective so no "-l" and "-t" are needed.)
4. Oel new naerit, rutxe. Oe new naerit, rutxe. / Oe new niväk, rutxe. ("New" is a modal verb, that's why there's the "<iv> in the verb.)

Well?  :-\


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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 10:04:19 am »
Well, dear. One karma for you. Now, new game, new instructions.

New instruction
1. Find the phrase with mistakes. Attention, there may be unright words.

New phrases

1. Ngal tsun uvan si uvanit.
2. Ayoengur pamrel si "Lu oeru Ikran" hu "ru" talun Ikran lu oeru, ke ngaru.
3. Fi'u lu sven.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 10:55:07 am »
Well, dear. One karma for you. Now, new game, new instructions.

New instruction
1. Find the phrase with mistakes. Attention, there may be unright words.

New phrases

1. Ngal tsun uvan si uvanit.
2. Ayoengur pamrel si "Lu oeru Ikran" hu "ru" talun Ikran lu oeru, ke ngaru.
3. Fi'u lu sven.

1. Nga tsun uvan sivi uvan
-no l behind nga, <iv> in uvan si as tsun is modal, an no -it behind uvan as uvan si is intransitive
2. Ayoeng pamrel si san Lu oeyä Ikran sìk hu san ru sìk talun Ikran lu oeru, ke ngaru.
-no ur in ayoeng, better use san..sìk instead of "", oeyä ikran, and also the statement is not true because of "ru" not being used. ;)
3. San sven sìk ke lu lì'u leNa'vi, oel fpìl futa nga new pivltxe san syen.
("sven" is not a Na'vi word, I think you want to say "syen".)
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Sorry !
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 11:12:40 am »
Sorry Puvomun, you failed the number two.

The good answer was: Ayoeng pamrel si san Lu oeru Ikran sìk hu san ru sìk talun Ikran lu oeru, ke ngaru. Lu oeru Ikran means "Is to me an Ikran", or "I have an Ikran".

The others are good.

No karma for you, but you tried.

OTHER GAME

Same instructions.

1. Nga lu oeru.
2. Oe pamrel si san Eywal tse'a ngati sìk sìn fi'u kxemyo.
3. Oeru 'i'a tsa'u uvan.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 11:26:14 am by Na'vi a Kepekmì »

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 12:01:42 pm »
I'm not sure, but...

1. Nga lu oeru. Nga lu pum oeyä. ("Pum" is needed to express "mine" too.)
2. Oe pamrel si san Eywal tse'a ngati sìk sìn fi'u kxemyo. Oe pamrel si san Eywal kame ngati sìk sìn fi'u kxemyo. (I don't think Eywa can "tse'a" but rather "kame".)
3. Oeru 'i'a tsa'u uvan. Oe 'i'a tsauvanur. ("-ru" is needless on "oe" but necessary on "uvan" since 'i'a is intransitive, and also "tsa-" means "that..." , so if you meant to say "this game" you should use "fì-" instead.)

As I said I'm not certain... What do you say?  :-[

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 12:43:59 pm »
I'm not sure, but...

1. Nga lu oeru. Nga lu pum oeyä. ("Pum" is needed to express "mine" too.)
2. Oe pamrel si san Eywal tse'a ngati sìk sìn fi'u kxemyo. Oe pamrel si san Eywal kame ngati sìk sìn fi'u kxemyo. (I don't think Eywa can "tse'a" but rather "kame".)
3. Oeru 'i'a tsa'u uvan. Oe 'i'a tsauvanur. ("-ru" is needless on "oe" but necessary on "uvan" since 'i'a is intransitive, and also "tsa-" means "that..." , so if you meant to say "this game" you should use "fì-" instead.)

As I said I'm not certain... What do you say?  :(
The first phrase, you are right.
The second phrase had no errors, but your precision is right. You did not fail.
The third phrase is doubtful. But I accept because of your explanations.

I send one karma to you.


Another game soon...

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 02:43:16 pm »
Thanks for karma, Na'vi a Kepekmì  :) Seems that game gets popular, what is great.
I show some mistakes you and others made to help you be better:
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Run lì'fyavit hu kxeyey.
Although grammatically correct, meaning is strange: Find expression while mistake is with you. "Hu" is used for accompaniment, so much better version is
Run lì'fyavit a nga' kxeyey -> Find expression which contains mistake.
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Lahea lì'fyavi:
don't forget - when adjective modifies noun, add -a- to adjective
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Oel new naerit, rutxe.
Original statement was correct. Although "new" is modal verb, it can be used as standard verb and in this case is transitive.
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Nga tsun uvan sivi uvan
Second "uvan" is indirect object of "uvan si", so dative should be used, but I prefer remove the second "uvan".
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Fi'u lu sven
I have no idea what word fits instead of "sven", but use fì'u - accent marks are important.
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Oe pamrel si san Eywal kame ngati sìk sìn fi'u kxemyo
I write "Eywa See you" onto this wall. To say "this X", Na'vi use prefix fì- (so fìX). your version say ... onto this thing wall, what is not correct
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Nga lu oeru.
Nga lu pum oeyä.
First should be correct too, second not fully. Why: "pum" has nothing common with possession. It was initial mistake based on example from Paul. "Pum" is "repeater" - refers back to some word from previous sentence (to avoid necessity to repeat it again), like English "one":
Fìfkxen lu 'om, fìpum lu rìkean -> This "vegetable" is purple, this one is green.
So exact meaning of "pum" is always context dependent. And it is missing for the second sentence.

Rini lu muntxatu Va'ruä. Nga lu pum oeyä (now correct)
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 03:05:26 pm by Blue Elf »
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2012, 02:59:48 pm »
You can't say oe 'i'a tsauvanur. You just say tsauvan 'i'a. That's what it means to be intransitive. ;) perhaps then you mean oel tsauvanit 'eyki'a :)

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 06:40:12 am »
New game.

1. Oe kem sìmi video mì Na'vi.
2. Polpxay pamrelvi mì snapamrelvi ?
3. Neyritil œti kameie.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2012, 06:43:40 am by Na'vi a Kepekmì »

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 07:02:22 am »
Oel tse'a ’a’awa kxeyeyit slä oe pìyey... lahea sutel akanu to oe pìyeng tìngayit.  :)

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 07:09:23 am »
Oel tse'a ’a’awa kxeyeyit slä oe pìyey... lahea sutel akanu to oe pìyeng tìngayit.  :)
'a'awa does not exist.

And what do you mean ?

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New game.

1. Oe kem sìmi video mì Na'vi.
2. Polpxay pamrelvi mì snapamrelvi ?
3. Neyritil œti kameie.
We continue the game.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2012, 07:16:43 am »
Oel tse'a ’a’awa kxeyeyit slä oe pìyey... lahea sutel akanu to oe pìyeng tìngayit.  :)
'a'awa does not exist.

Doesn't it?  ???

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2012, 07:23:28 am »
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New game.

1. Oe kem sìmi video mì Na'vi.
2. Polpxay pamrelvi mì snapamrelvi ?
3. Neyritil œti kameie.
We continue the game.
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2012, 08:25:02 am »
'a'aw-a does exist and is correct. If you want to continue the game, please do it "correctly" :P

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2012, 12:17:49 pm »
If nobody give answer, I'll say the answer. Hurry up !

The sentences are:

1. Oe kem sìmi video mì Na'vi.
2. Polpxay pamrelvi mì snapamrelvi ?
3. Neyritil œti kameie.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2012, 12:18:31 pm »
'a'aw-a does exist and is correct. If you want to continue the game, please do it "correctly" :P
This. If word can't be found in dictionary, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist - it can contain prefixes, suffixes, infixes.... and it can change the word by unbelievable way :)
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1. Oe kem sìmi video mì Na'vi.
To say "create something" we use ngop or txula ("kem si" means just "to do action" without any specification):
Oel ngolop ayrelit arusikx a sar lì'fyati leNa'vi -> very literaly: I created moving pictures which uses Na'vi language.
"Na'vi" itself is just noun, so if speaking about language, use lì'fya leNa'vi
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2. Polpxay pamrelvi mì snapamrelvi ?
To create question, use -pe- affix:
Polpxaype pamrelvil nga' snapamrelvit? -> How many letters contains alphabet?
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3. Neyritil œti kameie.
On first look seems to be correct, but "œ" is not part of Na'vi alphabet - use "oeti"
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