Na'vi game: Run k(x)eyeyt

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Vawmataw

#100
I would like to ressurect this game.

So, let's restart!

At least one of the sentences should be correct.

1. Fìkìfkey lu lor nang!
2. Ke smon oer faylì'u.
3. Rä'ä tsngawvìk talun lu hasey, lrrtok talun fì'u lolen.
4. Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin.
5. Ayngaru lu fpom srak? Srane. Ulte nga?

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Tìtstewan

#101
Quote from: Vawmataw on August 30, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
At least one of the sentences should be correct.

1. Fìkìifkey lu lor nìtxan nang! <-- Typo of kifkey, and missing nang
2. Ke smon oer faylì'u. <-- Tam, oe fpìl
3. Rä'ä tsngawvìk talun lu hasey, lrrtok si talun fì'u lolen. (Don't cry because it's done, smile because this thing occured?)
4. Kop, oerui fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. oe should be in topic
5. Ayngaru lu fpom srak? Srane. Ulte nga Ngaru tut?

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Vawmataw

Little help:
Meaning of the fourth sentence: Also, this word is more simple to me.
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Wllìm

Oh, this is a fun game! :D

Okay, next to what Tìtstewan already discovered:

1. Fìkifkey lu lor nìtxan nang! ("nang" should only be used with something like "nìtxan", right?)
4. Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. (I think that this one is correct. However, maybe something like "Kop, oeru fìlì'u fyin lu to fra'u" is more idiomatic? I don't know...)

Furthermore, "Rä'ä tsngawvìk talun lu hasey, lrrtok si talun fì'u lolen." is a great proverb, I think you should add it to the proverb thread :D

Blue Elf

Quote from: Wllìm on August 31, 2014, 04:56:01 AM
Oh, this is a fun game! :D

Okay, next to what Tìtstewan already discovered:

1. Fìkifkey lu lor nìtxan nang! ("nang" should only be used with something like "nìtxan", right?)
Sran, nang requires some word related to big quantity etc.

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4. Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. (I think that this one is correct. However, maybe something like "Kop, oeru fìlì'u fyin lu to fra'u" is more idiomatic? I don't know...)

Based on given translation:
Kop, oeri fìlì'u lu fyin nì'ul.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Tìtstewan

Ah, I forgot to write nang there. ;D


Quote from: Blue Elf on August 31, 2014, 05:57:20 AM
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4. Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. (I think that this one is correct. However, maybe something like "Kop, oeru fìlì'u fyin lu to fra'u" is more idiomatic? I don't know...)
Based on given translation:
Kop, oeri fìlì'u lu fyin nì'ul.
This. After reading his translation, I think this is the correct one.

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Wllìm

I don't see why the topical oeri instead of the dative oeru is needed there? :-\

Tìtstewan

#107
Because dative doesn't work well there especially with lu related to his translation.
Kop, oeri fìlì'u lu fyin nì'ul.
lit.: Also, as for me this word is more simple.
or: lit.: Also, this word is more simple for me.

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Vawmataw

#108
No one else wants to answer? Ok. So here are the results:
Quote from: Tìtstewan on August 30, 2014, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: Vawmataw on August 30, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
At least one of the sentences should be correct.

1. Fìkìifkey lu lor nìtxan nang! <-- Typo of kifkey, and missing nang
2. Ke smon oer faylì'u. <-- Tam, oe fpìl
3. Rä'ä tsngawvìk talun lu hasey, lrrtok si talun fì'u lolen. (Don't cry because it's done, smile because this thing occured?)
4. Kop, oerui fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. oe should be in topic
5. Ayngaru lu fpom srak? Srane. Ulte nga Ngaru tut?
5/5 (or 4.5/5) I don't think things can happen.  :-\ EDIT: Everyone forgot to correct fì'u. But it's ok. ;)

Quote from: Wllìm on August 31, 2014, 04:56:01 AM
1. Fìkifkey lu lor nìtxan nang! ("nang" should only be used with something like "nìtxan", right?)
4. Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. (I think that this one is correct. However, maybe something like "Kop, oeru fìlì'u fyin lu to fra'u" is more idiomatic? I don't know...)
The first one is correct, the other one is incorrect (Tìtstewan already explained why).

QuoteFurthermore, "Rä'ä tsngawvìk talun lu hasey, lrrtok si talun fì'u lolen." is a great proverb, I think you should add it to the proverb thread :D
It seems to be a quote from Dr. Seuss, but I'm not sure if the website I visited was reliable. But it's still a great proverb.

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 31, 2014, 05:57:20 AM
Quote from: Wllìm on August 31, 2014, 04:56:01 AM
Oh, this is a fun game! :D

Okay, next to what Tìtstewan already discovered:

1. Fìkifkey lu lor nìtxan nang! ("nang" should only be used with something like "nìtxan", right?)
Sran, nang requires some word related to big quantity etc.

Quote
4. Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. (I think that this one is correct. However, maybe something like "Kop, oeru fìlì'u fyin lu to fra'u" is more idiomatic? I don't know...)

Based on given translation:
Kop, oeri fìlì'u lu fyin nì'ul.
Everything is correct.
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Wllìm

I guess everyone is allowed to put new puzzles here, so here is my attempt :D

1. Ro ayikran awnga merakto mì na'ring.
2. Slä sawtutel txamula ekxan.
3. Hufwa ke kxayl lolu tsaekxan.
4. Nìftue awnga tswolayon io ekxan.
5. Poltxe oe: tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay!

(Sorry for my uhm... not really great story-writing skills ;))

Vawmataw

#110
I will try:
Quote from: Wllìm on August 31, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
1. Ro ayikran awnga merakto mì na'ring. Ayikranit awngal molakto na'rìngmì. (mì na'rìng is also correct, but it's my style)
2. Slä sawtutel txamula ekxan. Slä sawtutel txolula ekxanit.
3. Hufwa ke kxayl lolu tsaekxan. Hufwa ke kxayl lamu tsaekxan.
4. Nìftue awnga tswolayon io ekxan. Maybe correct
5. Poltxe oe: tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay! Poltxe oe san tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay!
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Blue Elf

Quote from: Vawmataw on August 31, 2014, 01:01:55 PM
I will try:
Quote from: Wllìm on August 31, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
1. Ro ayikran awnga merakto mì na'ring. Ayikranit awngal molakto na'rìngmì. (mì na'rìng is also correct, but it's my style)
2. Slä sawtutel txamula ekxan. Slä sawtutel txolula ekxanit.
3. Hufwa ke kxayl lolu tsaekxan. Hufwa ke kxayl lamu tsaekxan.
4. Nìftue awnga tswolayon io ekxan. Maybe correct
5. Poltxe oe: tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay! Poltxe oe san tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay!

Why changes in infixes? in 1. is described action in progress, so what is reason to change it to completed action?
IMHO original infixes are fully correct. We are flying on ikrans (just now). But skypeople created obstacle in the past. Now time background is established, so following infixes can just refer to completed action (although can be omitted completely).
Other corrections are ok, except 3. - ke goes in front of verb:

Hufwa kxayl ke lolu tsaekxan
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Vawmataw

#112
 :-[

Quote from: Vawmataw on August 31, 2014, 01:01:55 PM
I will try:
Quote from: Wllìm on August 31, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
1. Ro ayikran awnga merakto mì na'ring. Ayikranit awngal merakto na'rìngmì. (mì na'rìng is also correct, but it's my style)
2. Slä sawtutel txamula ekxan. Slä sawtutel txamula ekxanit.
3. Hufwa ke kxayl lolu tsaekxan. Hufwa kxayl ke lolu tsaekxan.
4. Nìftue awnga tswolayon io ekxan. Maybe correct
5. Poltxe oe: tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay! Poltxe oe san tsaysawtute lu snumìna nìngay sìk!


Quote from: Blue Elf on August 31, 2014, 02:38:24 PM
Why changes in infixes?
Because I'm stupid. That's why.
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Blue Elf

Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Wllìm

You found all mistakes  :D
As Blue Elf said already, the infixes are not meant to be errors, although their use is always subjective of course  ;)
Sentence 4 should indeed be correct, at least there are no intentional mistakes there :)

Vawmataw

#115
Good! Would anyone like to continue the game?
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Vawmataw

Tam. Sivar uvan sivi ko!

1. Poltxe oel sanit Sunu oer tìkxey si sìk.
2. Neytiril yolum breadit ulte poru ke sunu fìsyuve.
3. Frapo kem si keyey.
4. Säfpìlpe lu ngar a teri fìlì'u alu nì'ango?
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Tìtstewan

#117
Quote from: Vawmataw on September 01, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
Tam. Sivar (futa?) uvan sivi ko!

1. Poltxe oel sanit Sunu oer tìkxey si sìk. (<- I like incorectness?)
2. Neytiril yoluom breadtsyosyuit(i) ulte poru ke solunu tsasyuve. (I used tsyosyu because it means foods made from flour. Btw. bread -> *pxrret)
3. Frapo kem si keyeyur.
4. Säfpìlpe lu ngar a teri fìlì'u alu nì'ango? OK

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Wllìm

Ninja'ed by one minute :(

My attempts:

1. Poltxe oel sanit Sunu oer tìkxey si sìk. ("san" is not a noun and thus should not have patientive case.)
2. Neytiril yoluom breadit (?) ulte poru ke sunu fìsyuve. ("yom", not "yum". I guess "bread" is meant as a loan? I don't know whether you consider that an error.)
3. Frapo kem si keyey nui. (Well, that changes the meaning quite a bit of course... :P But I think that you do not "do mistakes". At least it would be "kem si keyeyur" then, but I don't think that works... Summary: I think the sentence is wrong, but I don't know how to correct it properly.)
4. Säfpìlpe lu ngar a teri fìlì'u alu nì'ango? (This one is correct I think. However it may be clearer to put the subclause next to the noun it belongs to.)

So I think the correct sentence is 4 :)

Vawmataw

#119
Quote from: Wllìm on September 01, 2014, 11:51:53 AM
("yom", not "yum".)
Oops! That mistake wasn't intended.


Just saying, you both corrected only 3/4 of the sentences.
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