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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2013, 06:18:38 pm »
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2. Oeru smon tute a nìNa'vi nìltsan pivlltxe tsun.
Negation, word order, topical?
Waiting for the big surprise.

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Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.
Mì 'rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteo ke.

Shall I wait for Eana Unil or Tìtstewan, or some other person who hasn't played this one yet? I don't really wanna spoil it all yet. ;D
Of course, you shall.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2013, 06:20:51 pm »
For convenience, the current game is:

1. Oe zaya'u ngaru txo lu oeru tìpawmit.
2. Oeru smon tute a nìNa'vi nìltsan pivlltxe tsun.
3. Oel tswayon io ayutralit
4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.

Only one of these sentences is currently correct.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2013, 06:36:28 pm »
Just my try, but I'm afraid, something is wrong...

1. Oe zaya'u ngaru txo lu oeru tìpawmit. -> Oe zaya'u ne ngaru txo livu oe tìpawm
2. Oeru smon tute a nìNa'vi nìltsan pivlltxe tsun. -> Oe smon (ay)sute a nìltsan tsun pivlltxe nìNa'vi.
3. Oel tswayon io ayutralit -> Oe tswayon io ayutral
4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u. -> Mì 'Rrta, fìrusey tererkängup slä kea suteo.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2013, 06:48:47 pm »
Hrh, ma Tirea ;D Since I'm supposed to try, I'll do so... :P
This game is fun after all.

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1. Oe zaya'u ngaru txo lu oeru tìpawmit.
Oe zaya'u ngane txo livu oeru tìpawm.
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2. Oeru smon tute a nìNa'vi nìltsan pivlltxe tsun.
Oeru smon tuteo a tsun pivlltxe nìNa'vi nìltsan.  :-\ (I guess word order isn't important here, just going with the word order I feel most comfy with)
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3. Oel tswayon io ayutralit
Oe tswayon io ayutral.
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4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.
Mì 'rrta, ayrusey tererkängkup slä kea suteo/kawtu (ke terkup?). (I guess I don't quite get the intended meaning  :-X)

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2013, 10:28:12 pm »
Ok I'll give it away.

1. Oe zaya'u ngaru txo lu oeru tìpawmit.
2. Oeru smon tute a nìNa'vi nìltsan pivlltxe tsun.
3. Oel tswayon io ayutralit
4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.

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1. Oe zaya'u ngane txo l(iv)u oeru tìpawm.
2. Oeru smon tute a nìNa'vi nìltsan tsun pivlltxe.
3. Oe tswayon io ayutral.
4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.



1. I will come to you if I have a question.
2. I know a person who can speak Na'vi well.
3. I fly over the trees.
4. On Earth, the living things are dying but some people don't care.


It looks you guys got 1 and 3, and kinda 2. but I don't think you got what I was saying in 4 (which was the correct one) because of a new-ish thing we got from Pawl.

See these notes:

Are all 24 orders grammatical? Actually, no. The rule is that except in poetry or special ceremonial language, the modal has to precede the dependent verb.

Ketsran. Oeru ke’u.
‘Whatever. (Or: Anything at all.) I don’t care.’

And note that in the colloquial expression Oeru (ngaru, poru, etc.) ke’u, [...]
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2013, 03:24:56 am »
... ......... oeru ke'u..... suteru ke'u ... *remembers*.... *headdesk*.... of course... *facepalm*.... so easy actually  :-[ ;D

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2013, 07:47:32 am »

4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.
4. On Earth, the living things are dying but the people don't care.[/i]
Until you showed that note from Naviteri I didn't understand. IMHO we should use "...suteru ke'u", otherwise it sounds " .... some people do not care"
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2013, 09:28:38 am »

4. Mì 'Rrta, ayrusey tererkängup slä suteoru ke'u.
4. On Earth, the living things are dying but the people don't care.[/i]
Until you showed that note from Naviteri I didn't understand. IMHO we should use "...suteru ke'u", otherwise it sounds " .... some people do not care"

Actually, that is what I meant to say. In my English translation, I, for some reason, put "the" instead of "some". :-[ Fixed.

EDIT: I /knew/ that last one would trip people up. It was pretty much a trick question:

  • the Mì 'Rrta lenition exception
  • rusey as a noun. (to me, this is weird, and for the longest time never knew this until finding it in the dictionary)
  • the "X doesn't/don't care" phrase.


;D :D Good game. Someone else wanna make a new set?
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2013, 09:33:43 am »
Why not you, Tirea? :D Your previous sentences were quite hard, but also a lot of fun. :) Plus... no one guessed right, so there is no "winner" who would be "allowed" to post new sentences, so to speak :P

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2013, 09:46:53 am »
Why not you, Tirea? :D Your previous sentences were quite hard, but also a lot of fun. :) Plus... no one guessed right, so there is no "winner" who would be "allowed" to post new sentences, so to speak :P

:D

Ok. This time, should I put in translation first?

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2013, 09:51:57 am »
Tì'efumì oeyä nga ke zene fìkem sivi :) Slä tsat oel ke tsun pive'un ;)

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2013, 03:57:37 pm »
Ah! Thanks ma Tirea.
Ketsran. Oeru ke’u.
‘Whatever. (Or: Anything at all.) I don’t care.’

And note that in the colloquial expression Oeru (ngaru, poru, etc.) ke’u, [...]
Oeru 'u.  ;)

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2013, 04:05:49 pm »
Ah! Thanks ma Tirea.
Ketsran. Oeru ke’u.
‘Whatever. (Or: Anything at all.) I don’t care.’

And note that in the colloquial expression Oeru (ngaru, poru, etc.) ke’u, [...]
Oeru 'u.  ;)

But I'm really not sure that to say "I care" is oeru 'u. ::) ;D

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #73 on: June 07, 2013, 04:12:58 pm »
1. Oe lu ro kelutral.
2. Po lu tsperang txana 'uti.
3. Oe ke eltu sami tafral rutxe leyn nìmun.
4. 'eferu oel nìtxan sti.
5. Ne'ìm mì srr, oe kä ne numtseng nefä ayramtsyìp mefa'o nìwotx, mì txanherwì.

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2013, 04:30:25 pm »
Karma for good teaching!

1. Oe lu ro kelutral.
Pff! Oel tok kelutralit.

2. Po lu tsperang txana 'uti.
Pol tsperang txana 'uti.

3. Oe ke eltu sami tafral rutxe leyn nìmun.
Oe eltu ke sami, tafral rutxe liveyn.

4. 'eferu oel nìtxan sti.
No bad words! ;D
Correction: Oe sti nìtxan.

5. Ne'ìm mì srr, oe kä ne numtseng nefä ayramtsyìp mefa'o nìwotx, mì txanherwì.
Ne'ìm mì srr, oe kä numtsengne nefä ayramtsyìp mefa'o nìwotx, mì txana herwì.
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2013, 08:16:29 am »
1. Oe lu ro kelutral.
2. Po lu tsperang txana 'uti.
3. Oe ke eltu sami tafral rutxe leyn nìmun.
4. 'eferu oel nìtxan sti.
5. Ne'ìm mì srr, oe kä ne numtseng nefä ayramtsyìp mefa'o nìwotx, mì txanherwì.

;D ;D ;D ;D
1/ Oel tok tsengit a ro helutral (oel tok kelutralit is not the same, IMO)
2/ Pol tsperang txana 'uti (but not sure whether things can be killed....)
3/ Oe eltu ke sami, tafral rutxe l(iv)eyn nìmun
4/ Oe sti nìtxan / Oel 'efu tìstit nìtxan (??)
5/ nìkeftxo, ke tslam nìwotx..... Tìfmi:
 Ne'ìm mì hrr, oe kä ne numtseng nefä ayramtsyìp fa mefya'o nìwotx, mì tanfwerwì
Not sure if ne'ìm can be used as back in time sense...

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2013, 08:32:01 am »
Number 3: I think we can remove nìmun, because leyn means repeat, do again.
For number 2, I agree.
Number one: Imo, both lu ro and tok are almost the same.
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #77 on: June 08, 2013, 08:40:10 am »
Number one: Imo, both lu ro and tok are almost the same.
they aren't. Lu is used when you want to describe someone/something (I'm hunter, Sky is blue, My father is clan leader) and can't be used when you want to say that something is somewhere (I'm in home tree, Henters are in the forest). It's task for tok (be at place, occupy a place)
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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2013, 08:47:25 am »
I have a serious problem (oìsss ma oeyä eltu). I wanted to talk about this:
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Oel tok tsengit a ro helutral (oel tok kelutralit is not the same, IMO)
Tok means be at. Basically, oel tok kelutralit will mean I am at Hometree, kefyak?

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Re: Na'vi game: Run kxeyeyit
« Reply #79 on: June 08, 2013, 10:32:23 am »
Karma for good teaching!

Irayo! :D

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1. Oe lu ro kelutral.
Pff! Oel tok kelutralit.

Yeah.

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2. Po lu tsperang txana 'uti.
Pol tsperang txana 'uti.

Hmmm... I'm with Blue Elf though. I'm not sure whether or not "things" can be killed. the grammar here is /almost/ (;)) correct either way though.

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3. Oe ke eltu sami tafral rutxe leyn nìmun.
Oe eltu ke sami, tafral rutxe liveyn.

Yeah. This is good.

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4. 'eferu oel nìtxan sti.
No bad words! ;D
Correction: Oe sti nìtxan.

HRH! ;D

Good.

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5. Ne'ìm mì srr, oe kä ne numtseng nefä ayramtsyìp mefa'o nìwotx, mì txanherwì.
Ne'ìm mì srr, oe kä numtsengne nefä ayramtsyìp mefa'o nìwotx, mì txana herwì.

Not quite. :)

Hrh! My original sentence here is such a mess!

So you got 1, 3, and 4. :D



1/ Oel tok tsengit a ro helutral (oel tok kelutralit is not the same, IMO)

I see no issue with fixing it to oel tok kelutralit. What you corrected it to is different, but also a correct sentence, so it's good.

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2/ Pol tsperang txana 'uti (but not sure whether things can be killed....)

Srane. SOO Close here. ;)

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3/ Oe eltu ke sami, tafral rutxe l(iv)eyn nìmun
Sran, this is good.

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4/ Oe sti nìtxan / Oel 'efu tìstit nìtxan (??)

I'd say the first one, second one I think is grammatically correct, but seems like something that would be rare.

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5/ nìkeftxo, ke tslam nìwotx..... Tìfmi:
 Ne'ìm mì hrr, oe kä ne numtseng nefä ayramtsyìp fa mefya'o nìwotx, mì tanfwerwì
Not sure if ne'ìm can be used as back in time sense...

It was a horrible English calque, my original sentence ;D ;D

Almost.

So you got 1,3, and 4 also. :D



Anyone else wanna give it a go?

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