The Web-based Na'vi Name Generator never outputs ll or rr in the generated names

Started by wrrtll, April 09, 2019, 11:42:03 AM

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wrrtll

OK, so I'm six years late to this party. I made some names, and looked at the monstrosities others posted, and noticed that names with ll or rr are not appearing. Just happens that I'm rather partial to those "vowels". Looked at the PHP code provided, and see that they are not listed. The function getNucleus does have question marks instead of ll and rr at the 80 and 85 tests, so I'm wondering if someone could fix those? If that's too hard at this late date, let me know, and I'll redo the PHP generator into Python for my own use. Would be nice to fix the public generator, though.

Thanks,

Wrrtll

Eìrä

Quote from: wrrtll on April 09, 2019, 11:42:03 AM
OK, so I'm six years late to this party. I made some names, and looked at the monstrosities others posted, and noticed that names with ll or rr are not appearing. Just happens that I'm rather partial to those "vowels". Looked at the PHP code provided, and see that they are not listed. The function getNucleus does have question marks instead of ll and rr at the 80 and 85 tests, so I'm wondering if someone could fix those? If that's too hard at this late date, let me know, and I'll redo the PHP generator into Python for my own use. Would be nice to fix the public generator, though.

Thanks,

Wrrtll
I saw a name where you can see "ll" and "tt"!
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It requires extra coding because ll and rr can't start syllables and be on their own unlike vowels.
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wrrtll

Quote from: Vawmataw on April 09, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
It requires extra coding because ll and rr can't start syllables and be on their own unlike vowels.

Could you or someone else point me to the rules so I can complete this generator?

Irayo,

Wrrtll

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Quote from: wrrtll on April 09, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Vawmataw on April 09, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
It requires extra coding because ll and rr can't start syllables and be on their own unlike vowels.

Could you or someone else point me to the rules so I can complete this generator?

Irayo,

Wrrtll

  Hey Wrrtll, thanks for jumping on the name generator!  For more language info, check the syllable structure details in section 2.1.4 of the grammar document at  https://files.learnnavi.org/docs/horen-lenavi.pdf.  This document by Wm Annis is pretty much a complete and detailed description of the phonetics, grammar and structure of Na'vi.

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Na'vi Dictionary: http://files.learnnavi.org/dicts/NaviDictionary.pdf

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Quote from: wrrtll on April 09, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Vawmataw on April 09, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
It requires extra coding because ll and rr can't start syllables and be on their own unlike vowels.

Could you or someone else point me to the rules so I can complete this generator?

Irayo,

Wrrtll

Hi wrrtll! Welcome to the Learn Na'vi forums!

Modifications are definitely welcome :D If you choose to modify the PHP code, could you please share your changes? I maintain the copy that is live over at https://tirea.learnnavi.org/?p=generator

Feel free to fork and submit a Pull Request on GitHub https://github.com/tirea/Tirea-Material-Lesson-Blog
Relevant file is https://github.com/tirea/Tirea-Material-Lesson-Blog/blob/master/res/generate.php

wrrtll

Thanks for the replies. Found the rules just where you said, they were very helpful. Kind of went nuts and put together a bunch of Na'vi language tools in Python, my favorite for this sort of programming fun. Also made all 8,698 possible syllables, just for grins. I'm putting together a PHP environment to update the name generator, got Eclipse downloaded and up, just have to get an HTML server with PHP running securely. Should have a more complete name generator in a couple of weeks, if life doesn't interfere.

Irayo,

Wrrtll