Conditional mood without conjunctions

Started by Vawmataw, July 16, 2015, 03:26:14 PM

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Vawmataw

Here's an example:
You should have come. You would love that movie.

In the translation, I will not use or imply zun ... zel or txo ... tsakrr:
Nga zolene kivä. Ngar sivunu fìrel arusikx.

Is the translation true? Is there a way to use the conditional mood without any conjunction?
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Tìtstewan

Pawl said that one cannot omit them.
My try:
Zun zilvene ziva'u, zel ngar sivunu tsarel arusikx.

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Tirea Aean

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Quote from: Vawmataw on July 16, 2015, 03:26:14 PM
You should have come.
That sentence is precisely the reason why we have sweylu fwa.

Sweylu fwa nga zola'u.

Quote from: http://naviteri.org/2011/04/%E2%80%99a%E2%80%99awa-li%E2%80%99fyavi-amip%E2%80%94a-few-new-expressions/
Sweylu fwa nga kolä.
'You should have gone.'
Using zolene would mean: "You needed to come / You were required to come." I recommend reading that post linked in the quote.

QuoteYou would love that movie.
Ngar sivunu fìrel arusikx.
^ This of course is okay. (fì- = this, tsa- = that, but it's not a huge deal)

Vawmataw

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Tirea Aean

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Nìprrte' :D

EDIT:

Quote from: Tìtstewan on July 16, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
Zun zilvene ziva'u, zel ngar sivunu tsarel arusikx.

This would mean:
"If you had needed to come, then you would like that movie. ((But you didn't need to come, so you don't like that movie.))"
Good grammar, interesting logic. ;)

Tìtstewan

Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 16, 2015, 08:16:34 PM
EDIT:

Quote from: Tìtstewan on July 16, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
Zun zilvene ziva'u, zel ngar sivunu tsarel arusikx.

This would mean:
"If you had needed to come, then you would like that movie. ((But you didn't need to come, so you don't like that movie.))"
Good grammar, interesting logic. ;)
'ä'! I see what I did here. :-[

Oh my... How I could forget about sweylu fwa :o

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