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Offline Starfire

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Word order/grammar question
« on: June 02, 2014, 07:06:25 am »
I am trying to compose an appropriate insult when one is annoyed with someone else:  "A hellwasp should sting you". 

I've got "Sweylu txo zize´ sivngap nga", but I don't know if my word order and grammar are correct, particularly the placement of iv in sngap.  I know it goes after the consonant and before the vowel, but I'm thinking it may have to be sngivap instead of sivngap. 

TIA for any help you can give me!

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Re: Word order/grammar question
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2014, 07:56:58 am »
Sweylu txo zize'ìl sngivap ngat.
A hellwasp should sting you.

sngap is transitive so there should be T and L endings

As for the word order, here:
’A’awa Lì’fyavi Amip—A Few New Expressions -> the "sweylu parts" have some examples. :)

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Re: Word order/grammar question
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2014, 02:08:19 pm »
Or you can use simplified version:
zize'ìl sngivap ngat.
<iv> was in the past considered as a wish, what is not case now, but still it is used this way. Both versions are possible, IMHO
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Re: Word order/grammar question
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2014, 03:54:08 pm »
Or you can use simplified version:
zize'ìl sngivap ngat.
<iv> was in the past considered as a wish, what is not case now, but still it is used this way. Both versions are possible, IMHO

The <iv> infix also works here as this statement is kind of an imperative statement.

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Re: Word order/grammar question
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 04:30:14 am »
Thank you for the input, everyone.  I can see I still have a lot to learn about this fascinating language!

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Re: Word order/grammar question
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 09:39:02 pm »
Or you can use simplified version:
zize'ìl sngivap ngat.
<iv> was in the past considered as a wish, what is not case now, but still it is used this way. Both versions are possible, IMHO

The <iv> infix also works here as this statement is kind of an imperative statement.

I'm not sure I could ever read a sentence that includes its subject as an imperative sentence. Sentences missing the subject, I'd read as a command with the subject being implied to be the person to whom the speaker is talking. (Unless of course prior context provides that it cannot be a command so the speaker is just too lazy or being too informal to include it.) :-\

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