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Offline Tsu'roen

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #180 on: March 07, 2010, 11:28:26 pm »
http://avatar.typepad.com/entry/6a0128755f6728970c01310f736d9e970c?fbid=1-dy3MclbAU

"Avatar Vs. Hurt Locker With adjusted costs for technological developments, Avatar’s budget could have financed about thirty-two films like The Hurt Locker. Of course, with it’s current box office gross, Avatar could have made itself ten and a half times, while The Hurt Locker would only manage to make four fifths of a twin.
As any indie director could tell you, it’s the Avatars of the industry that make The Hurt Lockers happen. To ignore Cameron’s film would be a black mark against the Academy and a grave oversight—it is a remarkable technical achievement—but its inclusion in the Best Picture category makes for an odd addition, perhaps a concession to its popularity and not its overall artistry. The outcome of the Best Picture and Best Director awards will be a telling sign of the attitudes of Academy members. While the Oscars have somewhat successfully maintained a balance between honoring art vs. science, its an uneasy high-wire act that may, this year, result in a really splendid smashup. While hesitant to make predictions, I’m guessing the Academy will split the top two honors, giving Bigelow the gold man for Best Director before Cameron walks away with Best Picture. Anything else in this race is fair game. (via http://www.boiseweekly.com/Cobweb/archives/2010/03/05/the-showdown-of-avatar-vs-the-hurt-locker)"
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #181 on: March 07, 2010, 11:32:47 pm »
ORLY? Thanks for letting me know; I don't like talking out my txìm, so that's rather good to know.

And yeah, I dunno, the whole "SCOREBOARD!" thing comes from being in the band back in high school...we used to intimidate the other school's football team all the time. The most memorable time was when the team from Brawley, CA came to play us in the semi-finals, so we painted a giant message on the wall overlooking the field that read "It doesn't matter if we win or lose, at least we don't live in Brawley!".

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #182 on: March 07, 2010, 11:33:06 pm »
Would you all be saying the same thing about the black director had Precious won the award?  Don't use labels to explain away why the movie won, please.
Honestly - I would have preferred Precious had won the award instead the Hurt Locker - regardless of the skin color or sex of the Director. It surely had a better message than Hurt Locker
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #183 on: March 07, 2010, 11:35:22 pm »
Depressing movies always win.

It is sad that they had to parade (what was her name again?) out to show off the "I am woman, hear me roar" -- "You go girlfriend!" message. If HL was a "great movie," yaay. Then let it win without all of the excess drama of "oh this is a historic moment." That actually takes away from the movie by saying that the only thing a win is good for is to empower women, more than they are already empowered. Women can direct a movie just as well as men--all other things being equal--so it is no big deal that a woman wins. It IS a big deal that the Academy sucked us all in to watch that crap-fest of unfunny jokes and four hours of my life I will never regain.

But Avatar never stood a chance.
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #184 on: March 07, 2010, 11:35:38 pm »
http://avatar.typepad.com/entry/6a0128755f6728970c01310f736d9e970c?fbid=1-dy3MclbAU

"Avatar Vs. Hurt Locker With adjusted costs for technological developments, Avatar’s budget could have financed about thirty-two films like The Hurt Locker. Of course, with it’s current box office gross, Avatar could have made itself ten and a half times, while The Hurt Locker would only manage to make four fifths of a twin.
As any indie director could tell you, it’s the Avatars of the industry that make The Hurt Lockers happen. To ignore Cameron’s film would be a black mark against the Academy and a grave oversight—it is a remarkable technical achievement—but its inclusion in the Best Picture category makes for an odd addition, perhaps a concession to its popularity and not its overall artistry. The outcome of the Best Picture and Best Director awards will be a telling sign of the attitudes of Academy members. While the Oscars have somewhat successfully maintained a balance between honoring art vs. science, its an uneasy high-wire act that may, this year, result in a really splendid smashup. While hesitant to make predictions, I’m guessing the Academy will split the top two honors, giving Bigelow the gold man for Best Director before Cameron walks away with Best Picture. Anything else in this race is fair game. (via http://www.boiseweekly.com/Cobweb/archives/2010/03/05/the-showdown-of-avatar-vs-the-hurt-locker)"

Interesting stats.
From a scale of 1-10, I wonder how jelous are those academy members.

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #185 on: March 07, 2010, 11:41:27 pm »
Whatever, Hurt Locker won only one best picture oscar, But Avatar won oscars we all have inside ;) Thats much important and valuable.
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #186 on: March 07, 2010, 11:42:20 pm »
The Hurt Locker was a joke at best. Another war movie gathering sympathy by using the main char as the sole embodiment of everything that is happening over there. Its been done before MANY TIMES and most times better.  *cough*saving private ryan*cough* The only reason why it got the awards it did, was because she was a woman, plain and simple. The thing that shows the most about a good film, is HOW MUCH IT MAKES. Avatar made 2.5 BILLION with little commercial or advertisement, was all word of mouth, while the hurt locker, barely made it past its budget.

Its another one of those pitty movies where we are at war and the soldiers go through a lot, blah blah. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

One of Avatar's key features is that it strays AWAY from all of that. That peace, nature, oneness with everything and everyone, is the sole prowess of the film. It had an AMAZING cast, Amazing acting, Amazing effects, AMAZING SOUNDTRACK .sure the plot was one we've seen before, but its all about the EXECUTION of it.  James Cameron did this so well that the whole world loved it. To say that it is a rip off of old movies and is pochahontas blah blah, is a blatant disregard for ANY artistic movie criticism.

Hurt locker can have its awards, James cameron eats stacks of 100's for breakfast now, and you can bet that studios will sponsor his movies because we know what he can do.

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #187 on: March 07, 2010, 11:43:10 pm »
Awards aside, I will say this one more time:

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #188 on: March 07, 2010, 11:44:32 pm »
Kaltxí! That is epic... :) Twilight was... not my favorite movie. I do wish that I had time/talent to turn a picture of myself into a Na'Vi :)
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #189 on: March 07, 2010, 11:45:34 pm »
The Hurt Locker
Worldwide Gross: 18.1 *106 USD
US DVD Sales: 11.8 *106 USD

Avatar
Worldwide Gross $2.6 *109 USD
DVD Sales: let's see when it finally comes out  ;D
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #190 on: March 07, 2010, 11:47:03 pm »
Awards aside, I will say this one more time:

Even sparkly vampires wish they were Na'vi. As far as the gold man--well . . .  gimme a few minutes.



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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #191 on: March 07, 2010, 11:51:05 pm »
Kaltxí! That is epic... :) Twilight was... not my favorite movie. I do wish that I had time/talent to turn a picture of myself into a Na'Vi :)

Here is the link shows how i did my avatar. Maybe helps?
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #192 on: March 07, 2010, 11:56:09 pm »
Kaltxí! That is epic... :) Twilight was... not my favorite movie. I do wish that I had time/talent to turn a picture of myself into a Na'Vi :)

Here is the link shows how i did my avatar. Maybe helps?
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Wish I had photoshop lol...

But back on the awards... I still think the movie impact should be taken into effect.  Worldwide Avatar hit harder than Hurt Locker all day I would think.  There are some parts of Hurt Locker that I could see hitting harder with people associated with the military, but overall the impact of Avatar outdoes that of Hurt Locker imo.
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #193 on: March 07, 2010, 11:56:19 pm »
Lol. We've been over this pic...

But you seem to be under the impression that everyone here reads every post. Most of the best posts are missed by 99% of the members. So it is time to share a little love with those who missed it--IF (and it is) it is timely.

To wit:



This is "as it should be." All the rest is commentary.
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #194 on: March 07, 2010, 11:57:12 pm »
Lol. We've been over this pic...

But you seem to be under the impression that everyone here reads every post. Most of the best posts are missed by 99% of the members. So it is time to share a little love with those who missed it--IF (and it is) it is timely.

To wit:


This is "as it should be." All the rest is commentary.

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #195 on: March 08, 2010, 12:00:30 am »
... Most of the best posts are missed by 99% of the members. ...

That's because we have WAY TOO MANY sub-forums - and some people have a life besides being here and scanning every thread in every sub-forum ...
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #196 on: March 08, 2010, 12:03:28 am »
I think you hit the nail on the head here with your very astute assessment. The war movies have been done to death, and all follow the same, predictable format. Avatar presents a unique group of ethical and moral questions (human greed, disrespecting the planet, and so on) and brings to light the delicate balance of nature and all that dwell within. There was a serenity to it, a sad truth as well. Looking at earth in Avatar I fear that is where we are headed with rampant mining and deforestation. The acting was incredible. As was the musical score. I cried at quite a few scenes. That is no small thing. My sempul is a movie critic (his buddy actually knows James Cameron) and he has written that into some of is reviews, because I'm rather stoic and don't cry easily. This movie moved me emotionally and spiritually. There are deeper messages that the critics either can't or won't fathom.

The Hurt Locker was a joke at best. Another war movie gathering sympathy by using the main char as the sole embodiment of everything that is happening over there. Its been done before MANY TIMES and most times better.  *cough*saving private ryan*cough* The only reason why it got the awards it did, was because she was a woman, plain and simple. The thing that shows the most about a good film, is HOW MUCH IT MAKES. Avatar made 2.5 BILLION with little commercial or advertisement, was all word of mouth, while the hurt locker, barely made it past its budget.

Its another one of those pitty movies where we are at war and the soldiers go through a lot, blah blah. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

One of Avatar's key features is that it strays AWAY from all of that. That peace, nature, oneness with everything and everyone, is the sole prowess of the film. It had an AMAZING cast, Amazing acting, Amazing effects, AMAZING SOUNDTRACK .sure the plot was one we've seen before, but its all about the EXECUTION of it.  James Cameron did this so well that the whole world loved it. To say that it is a rip off of old movies and is pochahontas blah blah, is a blatant disregard for ANY artistic movie criticism.

Hurt locker can have its awards, James cameron eats stacks of 100's for breakfast now, and you can bet that studios will sponsor his movies because we know what he can do.
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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #197 on: March 08, 2010, 12:10:30 am »
Curioser and curiouser . . .

It is so important to "have a life" (which, for most people means watching TV, working at a job they don't like, and having difficulty either paying bills or finding a suitable mate, interestingly enough--which indicates that "having a life" is not a passion worth pursuing), but I have witnessed enough creative brilliance and wit here to fill a few volumes, and maybe even create a small fortune, should one be interested in any such things. It is to the loss of those who have not been able to see the gems this website has created. In all of it's glory and specatcle, the "Movie" Avatar has also created a humble location for brilliance to flourish and grow in the fertile soil of cooperative and friendly minds.

I don't know about you, but i have seen the world outside, and that life is far more unpleasant than the one I have found here. If not for this place, I would never have created all that I have, have yet to finish, or even that which I have yet to dream up. And as to other's creations, I can only hope that my humble contributions live up to the greatness that has preceded me here. No, I have no interest in any 'life" that includes corporate servitude and endless wage-earnings for millionaires I shall never meet. I do so like it here, where I can frolic with intelligent minds.

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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #198 on: March 08, 2010, 12:11:55 am »
Awards aside, I will say this one more time:

Even sparkly vampires wish they were Na'vi. As far as the gold man--well . . .  gimme a few minutes.




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Re: Avatar at the Oscars
« Reply #199 on: March 08, 2010, 12:24:04 am »
Curioser and curiouser . . .

It is so important to "have a life" (which, for most people means watching TV, working at a job they don't like, and having difficulty either paying bills or finding a suitable mate, interestingly enough--which indicates that "having a life" is not a passion worth pursuing), but I have witnessed enough creative brilliance and wit here to fill a few volumes, and maybe even create a small fortune, should one be interested in any such things. It is to the loss of those who have not been able to see the gems this website has created. In all of it's glory and specatcle, the "Movie" Avatar has also created a humble location for brilliance to flourish and grow in the fertile soil of cooperative and friendly minds.

I don't know about you, but i have seen the world outside, and that life is far more unpleasant than the one I have found here. If not for this place, I would never have created all that I have, have yet to finish, or even that which I have yet to dream up. And as to other's creations, I can only hope that my humble contributions live up to the greatness that has preceded me here. No, I have no interest in any 'life" that includes corporate servitude and endless wage-earnings for millionaires I shall never meet. I do so like it here, where I can frolic with intelligent minds.

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