Movie mistakes

[tute nuereime]

but if norm's avatar survived then wouldn't we have seen him as his avatar during the end scene where the people are leaving. theoretically he would had to overcome the shock of getting shot, go out during the fight (which he did), find his avatar, and stop the bleeding before the avatar dies.

[omängum fra'uti]

but if norm's avatar survived then wouldn't we have seen him as his avatar during the end scene where the people are leaving. theoretically he would had to overcome the shock of getting shot, go out during the fight (which he did), find his avatar, and stop the bleeding before the avatar dies.

I think I read somewhere that those tanks that they grew the avatars in were modified from something used to produce artificial organs in, or even put people in for reconstruction-ish things.  Maybe his avatar is in one of the tanks being healed.

[Txur’Itan]

but if norm's avatar survived then wouldn't we have seen him as his avatar during the end scene where the people are leaving. theoretically he would had to overcome the shock of getting shot, go out during the fight (which he did), find his avatar, and stop the bleeding before the avatar dies.

I think I read somewhere that those tanks that they grew the avatars in were modified from something used to produce artificial organs in, or even put people in for reconstruction-ish things.  Maybe his avatar is in one of the tanks being healed.

Norm's avatar was shot, he felt it, and left the bunker, maybe what we don't see, is him rescuing the body to be repaired later.

[Brainiac]

but if norm's avatar survived then wouldn't we have seen him as his avatar during the end scene where the people are leaving. theoretically he would had to overcome the shock of getting shot, go out during the fight (which he did), find his avatar, and stop the bleeding before the avatar dies.

I think I read somewhere that those tanks that they grew the avatars in were modified from something used to produce artificial organs in, or even put people in for reconstruction-ish things.  Maybe his avatar is in one of the tanks being healed.

Norm's avatar was shot, he felt it, and left the bunker, maybe what we don't see, is him rescuing the body to be repaired later.

Sounds feasible, especially considering the fact that we don't see him fighting.

[Seze]

Another point worth making on the toxic atmosphere is that if it was laking in O2, they would be carrying around 02 tanks with them.  Instead, if you think back to the scene where Jake tries to get one of the masks towards the end, the label on the box says "Emergency Rebreather Unit" and it doesn't appear to contain much if any 02, it looks more like a scrubber of some kind that filters the air of the toxic chemicals.  Just my thoughts on the matter...

[meruko]

From the game description of the mask called Exopack:

Used to remove tocix gases, including those in pandoran atmosphere.

Developed from civilian rebreather techonology, the exopack is a lightweight atmosphere filtration system that allows humans to survive in Pandora's athmosphere with a mimimum of equipment.

It also mentions that the atmosphere would be easily breathable if it wasn't contaminated by a pungent mixture of carbon dioxide, xeon and hydrogen sulfide. The partial pressure of oxygen is similar to that of Earths atmosphere and thus sufficent.

[Reronsem Si]

It also mentions that the atmosphere would be easily breathable if it wasn't contaminated by a pungent mixture of carbon dioxide, xeon and hydrogen sulfide. The partial pressure of oxygen is similar to that of Earths atmosphere and thus sufficent.

Carbon Dioxide at 8% (80,000 ppm) or above causes unconsciousness, and Hydrogen Sulfide at .03% (300 ppm) prevents cellular respiration, oxygenation of the blood, and at .08% (800ppm) its fatal in 5 minutes. Hydrogen Sulfide at .1%+ (1000+ ppm) is a one breath kill.  

Xenon in the blood causes the same effect as anesthesia.

So you either pass out from the Xenon and the CO2 or you don't oxygenate with Hydrogen Sulfide. Sounds like a fun environment.

[tute nuereime]

it's the kind of place you send your kids for summer camp.

[Txur’Itan]

it's the kind of place you send your kids for summer camp.

punishment = hey kids give me your exo packs and go out side to play.

[tute nuereime]

punishment = hey kids give me your exo packs and go out side to play.

**as you cover them in raw meat and try to find the nearest nantang (viperwolf) den.
you'll get the same result.

[Étienne]

After seeing the movie for the fourth time I realized on major mistake. Neytiri isn't in it enough.

[BlueQ]

Hey, just a few of my  thoughts on the above posts.

The vehicle cockpits were glassed in with Plexiglas, which is far less resistant to penetration by a sharp object than the impact of a bullet. It is much like a regular Kevlar vest, which is designed to stop bullets by spreading the inertia throughout the fibers and mushrooming the projectile on the Kevlar weave instead of letting it through--however, a knife or arrow will spread the Kevlar weave and punch right through. Thus the need for extra "point-proof" plates behind many combat vests. And as many of you have pointed out, the arrows were fired straight down at high velocity instead of at an angle from the ground. The geek in me has actually tried shooting arrows through 1/4" Plexiglas just to see if I could. It worked very nicely when I used a heavy bow and field points.

The security detail on Pandora was comprised of hired Mercs, not regular military. Thus I believe that standard tactical operation is a little more relaxed than it would be with regulars. So when Trudy "breaks formation" , she is basically just deciding not to work on that particular "project."

You are right: Norm was hit in the shoulder, or just below it in the bicep. So I would guess that his Avatar is in the medical dock getting patched up.

Just my two coppers!

Glad to be here,

BlueQ

[Txon Tompa]

*sigh*
you ppl..


of corse theres huge errors there HAS to be
if they fixed them the movie would be junk

(i figured this out with sweeny tod)

[Doolio]

well, i think we are all aware of that, but it's fun to blabber about it:)

[Txon Tompa]

well, i think we are all aware of that, but it's fun to blabber about it:)

haha yeah. 

[Motxokxen]

It also mentions that the atmosphere would be easily breathable if it wasn't contaminated by a pungent mixture of carbon dioxide, xeon and hydrogen sulfide. The partial pressure of oxygen is similar to that of Earths atmosphere and thus sufficent.

Carbon Dioxide at 8% (80,000 ppm) or above causes unconsciousness, and Hydrogen Sulfide at .03% (300 ppm) prevents cellular respiration, oxygenation of the blood, and at .08% (800ppm) its fatal in 5 minutes. Hydrogen Sulfide at .1%+ (1000+ ppm) is a one breath kill.  

Xenon in the blood causes the same effect as anesthesia.

So you either pass out from the Xenon and the CO2 or you don't oxygenate with Hydrogen Sulfide. Sounds like a fun environment.

it is stated that co2 is above 18% on Pandora. that i imagine is enough to stir problems.
not sure where in the solar system Pandora is , but they better be far from the suns because 18% would cause serious warming issues with the atmosphere.

[Le'tutean]

I've seen an mistake in Polish version of Avatar today, thanks to already knowing few words in Na'Vi and some basic grammar... (maybe it's also in other language versions, not sure)

In polish subtitles, there were few moments when they written Na'Vi there, without translating it (why would they do that, i still don't know. it's not like it matters, does it?)
When Jake learns about Utral Aymokriyä, The Tree of Voices, and Grace shows sat photos, there was a serious mistake in those subtitles.
The caption said Utral-ya Mokri instead of Utral Aymokriyä, so not only it had a different meaning (Voice of tree instead of Tree of Voices) it also had a typo in the genitive -yä.

I've found it pretty hilarious. Someone probably written it from the hearing without asking for help or checking with Fox

EDIT: I need to watch the movie again (ehhmmmm.... haha), because i can't make this part out it seems. Either it was a different scene where i've seen this bugged caption or it's even more messed up. The Tree of Souls is Ayvitrayä Ramunong (Well of Souls) after all, and it makes no sense to write Utral-ya Mokri in subtitles.

[Toruk Makto]

 Good catch! It's entirely possible that ghostwalkers from Fox are reading your posts here and will see that!

[Txen Seri Unil]

Kaltxi!

OK, now that I have found this thread, there is much to discuss!

After reading through the first 5 pages, many of the presumed "errors" were corrected by Reronsem Si, BlueQ, and others. To sum up:

Yes, if you are in a pressurized cabin and you get some holes in the windshield you will be fine. The pressure of the cabin will be enough to push air -OUT- of the holes, and not create a problem for those inside. It happens TWICE: when Trudy's aircraft is shot and also when SHE shoots the Dragon's cockpit. She even destroys one of the view screens! In neither case does either group have problems breathing because their air is being pushed -OUT- of the holes.

Yes, an arrow can penetrate glass, even plexiglass, with some effort. I don't know how strong the Na'vi bows are, but I am guessing quite powerful, and flying does add momentum to the shot.

The air on Pandora includes gases that are -poisonous- to humans. It has oxygen (as another poster mentioned) so it is only necessary to scrub out the bad stuff.

Now, for a REAL problem that I saw (and it was minor and should have been caught by the person in editing!):

When Jake is kneeling at the Tree of Souls "praying' to Eywa his queue is in the wrong place! Before he connects to the tree his queue is going down his back. When he goes to connect it is "magically" going over his shoulder and is in front of him.

It's minor, but there you go.

Eywa ngahu,
Txen Seri Unil

[Tirea Pa'li]

Having O2 in the air doesnt mean its not poisonnous. You need 0.1% "something" to kill you if you inhale enuff.

About the arrows... A mediaval longbow puts enoght force in the projectile to pierce steel armor. Thus given the people at that age were no taller than 1.50 m. (even that would be too tall). Now immagine the bow of a 3 meter allien whit carbon fibre bones. Its more like a ballista.