Movie mistakes

Started by xsoft, December 23, 2009, 07:02:36 AM

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xsoft

One of the popular things on fenomen like this is to find mistakes at the movie.
see http://www.moviemistakes.com/main8157


.. do you found any at your own?

Navi != Na'vi. Deku Tree != Utral Aymokriyä

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/goofs

I think it's a bit strange that the female pilot who did not participate in the tree bombing was not arrested for refusal to obey orders. But only that way she could help Jake and the Na'vi.
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Brainiac

the first two 'goofs' on imdb are wrong. <_<
first of all, the avatar(s) wearing clothes aren't Norm, they're the other avatars, the ones we saw at the beginning.

second: we can see na'vi having 4 toes and fingers, but avatars (being made from human dna as well) have 5 fingers, 5 toes (and eyebrows, which the imdb-poster failed to mention)

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I saw that on IMDB and for some reason really did not want to know the mistakes of the film.  It was an immense undertaking for JC and at this point I would rather not pick it apart but simply absorb and enjoy it as a whole.
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Quote from: Savitri on December 23, 2009, 08:06:53 AM
I saw that on IMDB and for some reason really did not want to know the mistakes of the film.  It was an immense undertaking for JC and at this point I would rather not pick it apart but simply absorb and enjoy it as a whole.

well, the great part is that the first two mistakes are just mistakes on the part of the posters :p
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I am glad I'm not the only one who noticed that those mistakes weren't mistakes


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Also, I sorta had an idea for the last one as well, the one about windshields. The first time the Na'vi tried shooting through them, they were standing on the ground and not moving - not enough force to break the windshields on the gunships, we all agree. The second time though, most of them are riding ikran. Which would mean they are moving at very high velocity, thus putting more power behind the shots. The are also shooting from above, or at least a much better angle than when they were on the ground. Seems like fine reasoning to me. *shrug*
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That was my feeling on that one too.  Shooting from below, the arrows lost a lot of their energy travelling up, and the blow was at a glancing angle anyway by then.  From above, they actually gain energy as they go down.  Plus they hit more square on, so less energy is sent to the sides.
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Quote from: Lora'txum on December 24, 2009, 01:48:02 AM
Also, I sorta had an idea for the last one as well, the one about windshields. The first time the Na'vi tried shooting through them, they were standing on the ground and not moving - not enough force to break the windshields on the gunships, we all agree. The second time though, most of them are riding ikran. Which would mean they are moving at very high velocity, thus putting more power behind the shots. The are also shooting from above, or at least a much better angle than when they were on the ground. Seems like fine reasoning to me. *shrug*

That's what I think too. :)
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Quote from: Eywa mokriyä on December 24, 2009, 01:59:26 AM
Quote from: Lora'txum on December 24, 2009, 01:48:02 AM
Also, I sorta had an idea for the last one as well, the one about windshields. The first time the Na'vi tried shooting through them, they were standing on the ground and not moving - not enough force to break the windshields on the gunships, we all agree. The second time though, most of them are riding ikran. Which would mean they are moving at very high velocity, thus putting more power behind the shots. The are also shooting from above, or at least a much better angle than when they were on the ground. Seems like fine reasoning to me. *shrug*

That's what I think too. :)
Also, notice what specific ship they were firing at  ;D
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Étienne

After seeing the movie for the second time with some others, one of my friends pointed out the arrows vs. glass shielding. I soon then after explained to him velocity is a major factor in a moving object and then they had nothing else to debate me upon. Although one asked me that he did not understand the biological means for the head tail. For that I explained that it is pure awesomeness.

Eyamsiyu

Yeah, I agree on the aspect of the arrows v. glass.  However, what if there's something that was not put in the movie?  While velocity is a large factor, what if (not shown in the film) they had made different arrows out of a harder material, thus creating more mass/weight?  Just a thought.


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Dark angel

Arrows on windshields is as clear as day - it is not a mistake, and only someone without any basic knowledge of physics would say that it's a mistake...And yes, I agree that they probably made different arrows, since they knew war was coming... ;D

Tirealì'u

Horse archers riding at 40mph on a horse gained around 25% extra penetrative force when firing their arrows (Go Mythbusters! :-P) so yeah, that is exactly it. That and firing straight downward and not at an angle... And, actually, some of the arrows they show hitting the glass in the first scene were putting some nasty marks and cracks on it.

Roiki

I go on a limb here and presume that the windshields of the gunships are same as those in todays attack helicopters. They are made to withstand small arms fire, so it can take most rifle bullets, which have energies around 3,000 joules. In contrast a .50 caliber bullet hast over 10,000 and it penetrates it. So the energies of the na'vi bows would have to be in the 10,000 range, which is quite high but since we don't know the materials or forces associated here i don't want to say it would be impossible. Just makes my inner mythbuster little anxious.

The angle is also important, if you shoot an arrow in an angle towards a straight surface, there is a chance that the arrow will just glance off from it, it will deliver its energy to the target sure, but not all of it, this i think was one of the reasons why they didn't go through when fired from the ground, too long distance and too low angle of attack.

Also funny thing reading the imdb goofs, in the end of the movie the humans leaving the planet indeed didn't have masks on when they walk into the transports. I didn't notice it in theater but now when i think about it i remember a scene on Giovanni Ribisis characters face without the mask, makes me wonder what was the idea behind that.
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Quote from: Dark angel on December 24, 2009, 10:01:49 AM
Arrows on windshields is as clear as day - it is not a mistake, and only someone without any basic knowledge of physics would say that it's a mistake...And yes, I agree that they probably made different arrows, since they knew war was coming... ;D
I took that as the "deadly neurotoxin" rubbing off as they glanced off.
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Étienne

Something just came to me. Didn't the head of security say that the planet had a lower gravity? If I'm not mistaken, if that is the case the arrows are heavy as hell. I was going to go with that the window shielding is for earth's level of gravity and wouldn't be able to take something as heavy as a great sword plowing into the window but I'll live it with velocity.

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the one movie mistake i saw was that if you look closely at the helicopter that Jake and friends use you can see that the cabin is not sealed but the pilot is not wearing the gas mask. overall it wasnt a big mistake so no problem
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