Okay, I know we're all fans and all, but really?

[Txepa-utral Atxkxe]

^^ lol. It has turned me into a grammar nut on the forums, whether that's good or bad I don't know.

And as for the "unhappy" insanes, live and let live. Hold on.

Rey ulte tung rey

Closest to live and let live I can come up with. Eh.

Very nice.

[Fpeioyuyä 'ite]

I had one of those "depressions" after finishing Harry Potter. I literally grew up with that series--started reading it at six, and it finished when I was around thirteen and having anxieties about the future. I promised myself that I wouldn't cry at the end, but I wound up doing so anyway. I was definitely depressed for a couple of weeks after that, but it was because I was so tied to that story psychologically. When I read the last book, it was a symbol of my childhood's end.

After Avatar, I went through a small depression for a couple of days. I very quickly realized that I can channel my "aw, it's over" feeling into learning a new language and connecting with new people.

[Hawnuyu atìtse'a]

*pats on back* I feel you on the harry potter thing. I was raised with harry potter and star wars (in other words, correctly ) now add avatar to the list

[fkeua vrrtep]

I had one of those "depressions" after finishing Harry Potter. I literally grew up with that series--started reading it at six, and it finished when I was around thirteen and having anxieties about the future. I promised myself that I wouldn't cry at the end, but I wound up doing so anyway. I was definitely depressed for a couple of weeks after that, but it was because I was so tied to that story psychologically. When I read the last book, it was a symbol of my childhood's end.

After Avatar, I went through a small depression for a couple of days. I very quickly realized that I can channel my "aw, it's over" feeling into learning a new language and connecting with new people.

not that easy for me to cope with it , there's still this "it's not real" coming down after I thought about it once again and it seems like it's never ending , but it's really worth it , would have regret it if I had decided to not have seen it in the cinema *sigh*

[Robert Nantangä Tirea]

I don't know, it's a tough call.

Do we pass off someone simply because they want to see the world differently than us?

Yes, there is something such as over -obsession, fantasizing to the point that it impedes daily necessary duties.

HOWEVER...

I hardly feel it's fair to bring down the "nerd" hammer on people who come to grips with the reality that their most fantastic dreams are only dreams. Infact, I would go as far as to say that this is a healthy mental sign, that they can acknowledge when something moves them deeply and stirs their imagination, yet accept that it is not real in a tangible sense.

Yes it sounds corny for the people on that thread to be offering "support groups" in essence but then again, not all of us have strong mindsets. I think it's actually kind of nice that someone would offer to be there for someone else who is more fragile. Like with children, we don't judge them for their play and beliefs, we're there to support them when they need it. Many people, even adults, are still children at heart and mind and it's not always through fault of their own.

I think it's something our society has started to place less value in. The willingness to let your imagination and fasincation run free. The willingness to BELIEVE. Even in the movie for example, when Neytiri is about to shoot Jake. She could have passed the Seed of the Sacred Tree off as a coincidence, but instead chose to BELIEVE there was meaning to it, a sign. Now that's all well and good for the movie plot, but it applies to real life as well. Even if the universe is only random chance, what you chose to believe helps shape how you view the world around you and can give meaning and purpose to your life.

Just think: Throughout history, inventors/innovators/thinkers have always been comdemned for believing in ideas that were wild and "impossible" and that everyone scoffed at. There was a time when EVERYONE knew the world was flat for a FACT. But thanks to people who were willing to embrace the "impossible", our view of the world was literally changed.

The same goes for fiction. Only by believing in something that doesn't exist can you make it real. and sometimes you wind up in a different place than you thought you'd be at first but atleast you had something to believe in, something to shine the way.


(side-track)
I've experienced this myself. I'll tell you now, I remember when I read the first Maximum Ride book, "The Angel Experiment". I was thirlled. I was obsessed. I was in love with the idea of flying with my own wings. But you can only live vicariously through the characters until that last page and you close the book, then you realize it was only a dream. For a while I didn't know how to feel. I wanted to be depressed, angry that my imagination could torture me so. It was then that I realized I was sick of this all-talk-no-play attitude people have toward their imagination. I thought "by dammit, if I want some wings I'll damn well make some". Hell, I realized I didn't even care if I could fly with them, I just wanted some damn wings.
Of course, ANYONE would tell you what a crazy idea making bio-synethic wings was. /I/ would tell you it was crazy. But good can come from even the wildest of ideas. I've always had trouble with being afraid that I would start something I couldn't finish. So I figured that if I set my sights on something lightyears away, something outrageously impossible, I would probably wind up somewhere cool regardless of whether I got to the end of the road or not. Till then, I'd really been struggling with not knowing what I wanted to study in college, and where my career life was headed. Because I allowed my wild imagination with wings to grow, I decided to apply for Aerospace Engineering at Georgia Tech. And more importantly, I felt CONFIDENT about it.

Because of these choices, I took an interest in learning about flight dynamics, air and space craft design, and human-machine neural interfacing technologies. Thus when again my imagination was captured by AVATAR, I was not only swept away by the fantasy of it but by the technology as well. It wasn't just cool sci-fi, it would actually WORK. My mind went straight to work thinking of how I would make things, what I could build, what technological boundries I would work to break in the coming years.
(/side-track)

All that to say, I think people who find themselves obsessed with something should be ENCOURAGED to take it to the next level. Maybe they realize it's not for them, or maybe something fantastic comes from it. We all need a healthy amount of obsession in our lives.

The greatest life lesson I've made for myself is "There's only as much adventure in the world as you make." No one's going to come knocking at your door and offer you a trip to Pandora, so get out there and make a little Pandora around you every day! Don't pass something off because it's outrageous or give something up because people will laugh at you for believing in it. If you try to run too far, at least you'll make it further than if you never ran at all.

Hope that wasn't too boring to read

[Txepa-utral Atxkxe]

Not boring at all. That was very insightful. But as you yourself has said, there is a healthy amount of obsession that is possible to take to the next level, like love for an art, art form, discipline, etc.

However, I reckon that the type of obsession that we were addressing is that of the stagnating kind--that in which the person obsessing simply wallows in it an their own feelings of inadequacy as well as the realization that it is a fantasy. That, ma tsmukan, is not healthy.

[Hawnuyu atìtse'a]

I remember how psyched I was when the very first trailer was released in like september. I couldn't function for a week. December 18th came so slowly, I was like a kid waiting for christmas

[Robert Nantangä Tirea]

I remember how psyched I was when the very first trailer was released in like september. I couldn't function for a week. December 18th came so slowly, I was like a kid waiting for christmas

I know    I thanked Eywa I didn't have any tests the first week of november after I saw the trailer halloween weekend, I don't think I would have done so well on them.

[Sngä'i Tìrey-yä]

Am I going to be ostracized for admitting I didn't initially care about the movie, and only wanted to see it when I saw the previews a few days before it came out?

[Robert Nantangä Tirea]

Am I going to be ostracized for admitting I didn't initially care about the movie, and only wanted to see it when I saw the previews a few days before it came out?

not at all! Hell, I didn't even know AVATAR existed until I saw the trailer on TV because I /happened/ to be eating dinner at the same time. I never watch TV 

[Hawnuyu atìtse'a]

I'll admit that after seeing the second trailer I became frustrated with the deluge of footage that was released. I thought cameron was trying to oversell the movie and that the plotline would be totally predictable. Turns out I was wrong

[Tengfya swizaw]

Am I going to be ostracized for admitting I didn't initially care about the movie, and only wanted to see it when I saw the previews a few days before it came out?

not at all! Hell, I didn't even know AVATAR existed until I saw the trailer on TV because I /happened/ to be eating dinner at the same time. I never watch TV 

Same here, sort of. I had heard that there was going to be some weird "Avatar" movie coming out, and didn't really pay attention to it until I was in Best Buy and heard explosions and rumbling. The subliminal vibrations of the subwoofers then lured me to a 52" HD TV that had blue aliens on it. Then I sort got hooked.

[Fya'o Tskoyä]

Not boring at all. That was very insightful. But as you yourself has said, there is a healthy amount of obsession that is possible to take to the next level, like love for an art, art form, discipline, etc.

However, I reckon that the type of obsession that we were addressing is that of the stagnating kind--that in which the person obsessing simply wallows in it an their own feelings of inadequacy as well as the realization that it is a fantasy. That, ma tsmukan, is not healthy.

Since when is having fun and LEARNING something new a bad thing? Frommer even said that he wants Na'vi to be a gold standard language. There are certain points of obsession that are like "whoa, slow down" but having fun about something you like isnt one of them. It is not a fake language if you use it.

On that reasoning that simply because a different source uses a different language. Than English is a fake language because romans started making the language from Latin. As long as you believe in it, its not fake.

On another note, which im sure was addressed, Believing an Aywa as your goddess is NO different than beliveing in Jahova or Ala, or any other religious figure.

i think the person here who has the issue is you. Let people in enjoy themselves. The world is complete s*** filled with greedy money hungry people who s*** on the little guy cause they can. Avatar lets us dream in a world where realities are little like our dreams.

[Txepa-utral Atxkxe]

Not boring at all. That was very insightful. But as you yourself has said, there is a healthy amount of obsession that is possible to take to the next level, like love for an art, art form, discipline, etc.

However, I reckon that the type of obsession that we were addressing is that of the stagnating kind--that in which the person obsessing simply wallows in it an their own feelings of inadequacy as well as the realization that it is a fantasy. That, ma tsmukan, is not healthy.

Since when is having fun and LEARNING something new a bad thing? Frommer even said that he wants Na'vi to be a gold standard language. There are certain points of obsession that are like "whoa, slow down" but having fun about something you like isnt one of them. It is not a fake language if you use it.

On that reasoning that simply because a different source uses a different language. Than English is a fake language because romans started making the language from Latin. As long as you believe in it, its not fake.

On another note, which im sure was addressed, Believing an Aywa as your goddess is NO different than beliveing in Jahova or Ala, or any other religious figure.

i think the person here who has the issue is you. Let people in enjoy themselves. The world is complete s*** filled with greedy money hungry people who s*** on the little guy cause they can. Avatar lets us dream in a world where realities are little like our dreams.

...What does anything you just said have to do with what I said?  Na'vi is a made up language. I'm not the only person on this forum who has said that. And the fact that I'm here means I'm a nerd who is, as you have just said, learning. I have no problem at all.

[Hawnuyu atìtse'a]

Did you read the original link? He was adressing the people in said link, not you so take a chill. And calm down on the religious bashing (spell right too). Implying that Jehovah or Allah or God for that matter is fake is something I don't take lightly. Eywa may very well exist, and there's nothing wrong with having more than one religious belief. Dang man, you're gettin me riled up over a funny thread.

[Txepa-utral Atxkxe]

I am a she. 

[Txur’Itan]

I am trying to learn, but lots of side projects have created parallel information I now need to track down.

I need to get onto skype to catch up on my Na'vi.

[Hawnuyu atìtse'a]

Man as a generic form of adress. I suggest the "Hostility-Time to calm down?" thread in site info as reading.

[Txur’Itan]

Man as a generic form of adress. I suggest the "Hostility-Time to calm down?" thread in site info as reading.

seconded...

I hate loosing Karma for locking threads.

[Hawnuyu atìtse'a]

Might as well. The discussion isn't going anywhere. Do you automatically lose karma?