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Quote from: Tirey Hawnuyu on March 29, 2010, 02:49:56 PM
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Quote from: Kaltxì Palulukan! on March 29, 2010, 01:32:59 AM
W-o-w.


^ 'nuff said.
that's what I said when I found the video (I wonder how that person was able to get the footage and not get yelled at by Jim or Fox).

Maybe it was Jim.....
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Quote from: Tukruyä Tsamsiyu on March 29, 2010, 02:52:19 PM
Quote from: Tirey Hawnuyu on March 29, 2010, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: Tukruyä Tsamsiyu on March 29, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
Quote from: Kaltxì Palulukan! on March 29, 2010, 01:32:59 AM
W-o-w.


^ 'nuff said.
that's what I said when I found the video (I wonder how that person was able to get the footage and not get yelled at by Jim or Fox).

Maybe it was Jim.....

well Jim is in the video so it was not him filming but maybe he asked someone to film stuff like that, perhaps he thought fox would not have a problem with it being on youtube. But this is getting some what off topic now.

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Okay, so this got me thinking today.

"What if..."

Remember the scene when Jake says, "Trudy, fire up the helicopter," (or however it is correctly phrased)? That scene always makes me angry, because it makes no sense. They split up and someone has to know that the moment that switch is thrown, an alert will go off in the air-traffic control tower (and it does...). They split up. Why?

Suddenly it makes sense. What if Jake was going to rescue Selfridge? It would be in character--especially if they cut some supporting footage--as Jake is at all times a team player, not a rebel (well, until the final attack--and even then he only fights those fighting--he send the rest "home"). If (at least in the light of this deleted scene) it really was Quaritch, and not Selfridge, who launched an all out war on the Na'vi, then it would make sense to split up (and presumably spring Selfridge). Otherwise, Trudy, Norm, Max, Jake, and Grace had no reason to split up. Either:

1: Most direct route
2: "Diasabled access" route--but since they had to life Jake into a chopper anyway, that hardly makes sense. They could have easily been loading Jake while Trudy was doing pre-flight.

grrr...

(wants more scenes--even if they are obviously written out of the official story)
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Quote from: Kaltxì Palulukan! on March 29, 2010, 11:56:11 PM
Okay, so this got me thinking today.

"What if..."

Remember the scene when Jake says, "Trudy, fire up the helicopter," (or however it is correctly phrased)? That scene always makes me angry, because it makes no sense. They split up and someone has to know that the moment that switch is thrown, an alert will go off in the air-traffic control tower (and it does...). They split up. Why?

Suddenly it makes sense. What if Jake was going to rescue Selfridge? It would be in character--especially if they cut some supporting footage--as Jake is at all times a team player, not a rebel (well, until the final attack--and even then he only fights those fighting--he send the rest "home"). If (at least in the light of this deleted scene) it really was Quaritch, and not Selfridge, who launched an all out war on the Na'vi, then it would make sense to split up (and presumably spring Selfridge). Otherwise, Trudy, Norm, Max, Jake, and Grace had no reason to split up. Either:

1: Most direct route
2: "Diasabled access" route--but since they had to life Jake into a chopper anyway, that hardly makes sense. They could have easily been loading Jake while Trudy was doing pre-flight.

grrr...

(wants more scenes--even if they are obviously written out of the official story)

their are 20 min of unseen footage from AVTR 1 so maybe something their, but I think hey may have split up for the old divide and conquer, Jake knew it would take Trudy and Norm time to prep the chopper, Jake and Grace standing around make an easy target, Jake needed to make sure max made it to I guess a lab or something and convince or tell the rest of the science team what they were going to do (giving max an alibi would also be a good idea) (i assume he may have done this because max had someone making watching out during his transmission so he would not get caught) perhaps while he was telling them what to do he figured out that an attack on the base would be a good idea and someone on the inside could help. After that Trudy would have the chopper prepped and they would be right their to get in cutting to what we do know from the movie we can see they were maybe waiting about a min before the alarm reached air-control and they had just enough time to take off before Quaritch (who really needs to practice his aim with the assault rifle) starts shooting. The following is from the '07 script:

QuoteTrudy nods. She grabs Norm and enters the airlock. Jake turns to Max.
JAKE Stay here. I need somebody on the inside
I can trust. Max nods. Jake grips his hand tightly.
EXT. AIRFIELD - NIGHT
IN THE SAMSON, Norm is helping Trudy race through the preflight checks as the turbines spool up. A LIGHT hits them.
An armored TROOPER approaches, aiming his AR at them.
TROOPER I need you to shut down and step out of
the vehicle! Now! JAKE rolls up behind him, aiming his pistol.
JAKE Take it nice and easy, troop.
The trooper turns, sees the gun.
JAKE On the ground, face down. Hands behind
your head. The trooper hesitates.
GRACE Do what he goddamn says!
He does. Norm jumps down and grabs the trooper's rifle and side-arm, covering him, while Grace helps Jake from chair to the back bay of the chopper. She throws his chair in, and jumps in herself.
JAKE Go! Go! Go!
113.
CUT TO:
INT. OPS CENTER - NIGHT
QUARITCH, watching a monitor, sees what's happening down at the airfield. He slams his palm down on an ALARM BUTTON.
He draws his PISTOL. Strides toward the EMERGENCY DOOR. He undogs it.
EXT. OPS CENTER/AIRFIELD - NIGHT
HOLDING HIS BREATH Quaritch yanks the hatch open and strides onto the outer landing. Inside people scramble for MASKS.
THE SAMSON lifts off in a blast of rotor-wash just as --
QUARITCH OPENS FIRE and --
ROUNDS rake the ship. Trudy banks hard, using the bottom to shield them. Bullets WHACK into the ship as she climbs-out over the tree-line.
Jake's fist pumps the air exultantly. JAKE
Oh yeah, baby!

and some support to your theory comes from the '07 script also:
Quote
SELFRIDGE This thing is completely out of control!
Quaritch ignores him, turning away to focus on ordnance loading.
SELFRIDGE Listen to me! I am not authorizing you to
turn the mine-workers local into a freakin' militia!
124.
QUARITCH I declared threat condition red. That
puts all on-world assets under my command.
SELFRIDGE You think you can pull this palace coup
s*** on me?! I can have your ass with one call --
Quaritch grabs him and PINS him against the side of an ampsuit.
QUARITCH You're a long way from Earth.
Selfridge is paralyzed. Physical force -- against him? Quaritch releases him and walks away.
QUARITCH (to his men)
Get him out of here. Several troopers converge on Selfridge.
SELFRIDGE You touch me you're so fired.
He pushes through them and they escort him toward the door. CUT TO:
INT. SHACK - DAY
HUMAN JAKE, NORM and TRUDY are gathered around the comms monitor, talking to MAX.
MAX I don't know how secure this channel is.
Talk fast.
JAKE
MAX It's crazy here, Jake. It's full
mobilization. They're rigging the shuttles as bombers. They've made up these big pallets of mine explosives. It's for some kind of shock and awe campaign.
TRUDY Frickin' daisycutters.
125.
Jake takes that in.
Thanks. Max signs off.
JAKE
Holy s***.
NORM
JAKE (to Max)
Can you talk to Selfridge? Maybe we can cut some kinda deal before this thing goes all the way.
MAX No, Quaritch has taken over. He's
rolling and there's no stopping him.
When?
JAKE
MAX Oh six hundred tomorrow.
NORM We're screwed.
TRUDY You know he's gonna commit those bombers
straight to the Well of Souls.
JAKE That's right. Because I gave it to him
on a plate.
TRUDY We both did.
NORM If he takes out the Well of Souls -- it's
over. It's their main line to Eywa, to their ancestors -- it'll destroy them.

so Jake is still thinking that Selfridge can help, the truth is unless Jame's on the special edition blu-ray or some directors cut.fan release thing go's over and answers all the cliff hangers in the story we will never know for sure, maybe AVTR 2 will have flashbacks or references to parts of AVTR 1 not seen in theaters that would clear thongs up.

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I think that the second part (the "disabled access"-route) makes not much sense.
First most of Hell's Gate seems to be built on the ground level. And why not? They got a whole planet to build on and finally found the first place in corporate history where building material is more expensive than the ground to build on.
And if you are building such a complex with the knowledge that you'll need "security personnel" on it that's recruited out of decomissioned military and mercenaries you sure don't want your security to have to struggle one of these rebellious veterans up a stairway to get them into the brigg, no?
So, splitting up really is an interesting thing to do. Why should they if they aren't attempting a "last minute rescue"? And then why didn't they succeed? Or did they just need to get Norm's favorite pillow, Jake's air pump and Grace's invaluable first edition "botany for beginners"?

On Unobtanium:
It falls into the list of transactinoids, super heavy materials, that are known to be radioactive with a short half-value. Meaning they normally decay fast. So, there is a theory on an "island of stability" where these transactinoids are more stable and not falling apart within seconds due to the shape of their nucleus, but that's not really important here.
As far as known all elements beyond number 82 (lead) are more or less poisonous for humans (and most other life forms on this planet). So it's quite safe to say that Unobtanium should be a nasty once it gets inside a body. Now, remember the miners? They work in Unobtanium-dust. And if Selfridge was fiddling lost in thought with his little floating toy and then grabs a donut...

Hmm, finally need to print and read the 07'script...
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Quote from: kintìomum on March 30, 2010, 12:59:27 AM
On Unobtanium:
It falls into the list of transactinoids, super heavy materials, that are known to be radioactive with a short half-value. Meaning they normally decay fast. So, there is a theory on an "island of stability" where these transactinoids are more stable and not falling apart within seconds due to the shape of their nucleus, but that's not really important here.
As far as known all elements beyond number 82 (lead) are more or less poisonous for humans (and most other life forms on this planet). So it's quite safe to say that Unobtanium should be a nasty once it gets inside a body. Now, remember the miners? They work in Unobtanium-dust. And if Selfridge was fiddling lost in thought with his little floating toy and then grabs a donut...

Hmm, finally need to print and read the 07'script...

Yea, that's about what I was thinking, since they do say (I think) at some point that unobtanium is a superheavy element, and I know what lead and antimony can do in large doses.
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the '07 script is were I get most of my theories from also some from project 880 (while it was available should have copied off the web), I agree with what you said about unobtanium being nasty if it got into the body at least for humans (anyone think the Na'vi might have some kind of immunity considering they live on a planet which has a whole crap load of the stuff, also with all of that unobtainium under hometree could that be why it was the largest tree in the area?) As for the layout of hells gate complex I have not much knowledge so I will take what I can get at face value. And knowing that running away from the base Jake Norm Trudy and Grave may have went to grab some supplies and as I stated you would not want everyone in the same place at the same time so that if you got caught someone else might have the chance to free you or at least free themselves.

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(the above is a response to this quote, thanks for giving us the periodic table info (meaning how the element could react))
Quote from: Tukruyä Tsamsiyu on March 30, 2010, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: kintìomum on March 30, 2010, 12:59:27 AM
On Unobtanium:
It falls into the list of transactinoids, super heavy materials, that are known to be radioactive with a short half-value. Meaning they normally decay fast. So, there is a theory on an "island of stability" where these transactinoids are more stable and not falling apart within seconds due to the shape of their nucleus, but that's not really important here.
As far as known all elements beyond number 82 (lead) are more or less poisonous for humans (and most other life forms on this planet). So it's quite safe to say that Unobtanium should be a nasty once it gets inside a body. Now, remember the miners? They work in Unobtanium-dust. And if Selfridge was fiddling lost in thought with his little floating toy and then grabs a donut...

Hmm, finally need to print and read the 07'script...

Yea, that's about what I was thinking, since they do say (I think) at some point that unobtanium is a superheavy element, and I know what lead and antimony can do in large doses.
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Quote from: Tirey Hawnuyu on March 30, 2010, 07:15:55 PM
the '07 script is were I get most of my theories from also some from project 880 (while it was available should have copied off the web), I agree with what you said about unobtanium being nasty if it got into the body at least for humans (anyone think the Na'vi might have some kind of immunity considering they live on a planet which has a whole crap load of the stuff, also with all of that unobtainium under hometree could that be why it was the largest tree in the area?) As for the layout of hells gate complex I have not much knowledge so I will take what I can get at face value. And knowing that running away from the base Jake Norm Trudy and Grave may have went to grab some supplies and as I stated you would not want everyone in the same place at the same time so that if you got caught someone else might have the chance to free you or at least free themselves.

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(the above is a response to this quote, thanks for giving us the periodic table info (meaning how the element could react))
Quote from: Tukruyä Tsamsiyu on March 30, 2010, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: kintìomum on March 30, 2010, 12:59:27 AM
On Unobtanium:
It falls into the list of transactinoids, super heavy materials, that are known to be radioactive with a short half-value. Meaning they normally decay fast. So, there is a theory on an "island of stability" where these transactinoids are more stable and not falling apart within seconds due to the shape of their nucleus, but that's not really important here.
As far as known all elements beyond number 82 (lead) are more or less poisonous for humans (and most other life forms on this planet). So it's quite safe to say that Unobtanium should be a nasty once it gets inside a body. Now, remember the miners? They work in Unobtanium-dust. And if Selfridge was fiddling lost in thought with his little floating toy and then grabs a donut...

Hmm, finally need to print and read the 07'script...

Yea, that's about what I was thinking, since they do say (I think) at some point that unobtanium is a superheavy element, and I know what lead and antimony can do in large doses.

Yea, I kind of wondered why the Na'vi showed apparently no signs that I could see of any kind of heavy metal poisoning like you would see with lead, so maybe they have gained some kind of resistance to it.
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I had to go through and rethink a bunch of stuff when I remembered that a Na'vi body has bones reinforced with carbon fiber (lucky I would not have broken by leg 3 times had I had those kinds a bone's and milk ain't gonna help(sorry for bad English their)). So that is when I started coming up with theories. I really wish I knew what the neural toxin was that they dipped their arrow's in was made of (off topic sorry). Huh to think about it everyone has seen the bow in Parker's office right? Well there are arrows next to it (this means someone had to kill a Na'vi because you don't get those things handed to you with a fruit basket by a Na'vi taronyu so Parker has part of a dead Na'vi's possessions what gave him his lively hood (the Na'vi) hanging above his desk)) but imagine Parker took one out and nicked him self on the tip by accident he would have 60 seconds to say "dammit" and start asking for forgiveness (but he could be an atheist also so...).

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eh, don't remember where it was but a person said that Parker had a Na'vi bow in his office with some arrows.  went back and watched his office scene.  first if have to say... that bow is F***ING HUGE (its Na'vi, of course it's huge),  but they also wondered what poison was on the arrows and if it would still work and possibly kill Parker.  No they won't, they are in a glass case.

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on the topic of unobtanium, if we take a look earlier in the film its said it sells at $20 million per kilo (comparison gold is roughly $1000 AUD per ounce or $900 American, so about $31,000 per kilo in American Dollars) so its very very very expensive, even plutonium and uranium does not cost that much (on today's dollars)

also taking a look at the standard population increase thats incinuated to by several characters and also Jakes prayer at the Tree of Souls to Eywa where he tells Her to look into Grace's mind and says that there is no green left on Earth, if there is no green there, pretty much means that coal will have been mined and oil sucked dry too (talking 145 years in the future) i have a feeling unobtanium is not just a heavy metal or an unstable element either (otherwise Parker would not have it suspended in his office risking his entire operation, very dangerous elements like that would cause havoc ingesting them in even small amounts and s similar size piece of uranium etc would emit a severe amount of radiation and actually getting heavy metal toxicity, you have to ingest quite a substantial amount, do remember we have a significant amount of Iron in our bodies and thats a heavy metal)

anyway actually getting to my point (hopefully the above helps a little to understand my conclusion) i think that unobtanium is some form of non-radioactive powersource that produces obscene amounts of power once either burned or whatever it is they do with it back on Earth, just bringing back to the fact we are talking 145-150 years in the future, hydrogen fuel cells wont be able to cope with powering everything and nor will solar power, and lets say for the sake of fun that plutonium and urnaium stocks have been all but depleted, (i know that my lovely home town of Australia has the largest reserve of plutonium in the world) so you i think its a non-radioactive super power source that is capable of running whatever gargantuan machines we have in 150 years, this is a really long post lol

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Quote from: PR-Moller on April 02, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
on the topic of unobtanium, if we take a look earlier in the film its said it sells at $20 million per kilo (comparison gold is roughly $1000 AUD per ounce or $900 American, so about $31,000 per kilo in American Dollars) so its very very very expensive, even plutonium and uranium does not cost that much (on today's dollars)

also taking a look at the standard population increase thats incinuated to by several characters and also Jakes prayer at the Tree of Souls to Eywa where he tells Her to look into Grace's mind and says that there is no green left on Earth, if there is no green there, pretty much means that coal will have been mined and oil sucked dry too (talking 145 years in the future) i have a feeling unobtanium is not just a heavy metal or an unstable element either (otherwise Parker would not have it suspended in his office risking his entire operation, very dangerous elements like that would cause havoc ingesting them in even small amounts and s similar size piece of uranium etc would emit a severe amount of radiation and actually getting heavy metal toxicity, you have to ingest quite a substantial amount, do remember we have a significant amount of Iron in our bodies and thats a heavy metal)

anyway actually getting to my point (hopefully the above helps a little to understand my conclusion) i think that unobtanium is some form of non-radioactive powersource that produces obscene amounts of power once either burned or whatever it is they do with it back on Earth, just bringing back to the fact we are talking 145-150 years in the future, hydrogen fuel cells wont be able to cope with powering everything and nor will solar power, and lets say for the sake of fun that plutonium and urnaium stocks have been all but depleted, (i know that my lovely home town of Australia has the largest reserve of plutonium in the world) so you i think its a non-radioactive super power source that is capable of running whatever gargantuan machines we have in 150 years, this is a really long post lol

It is quite long (I post some long one's my self about 8 paragraphs (and I read all posts before I make a comment or reply)). It is fairly safe to assume that we use unobtainium as a power source, if all others were depleted or close to depletion, at this time earth is probably running off of anti matter (hell's gate and the IVS Venture Star's power source) so unobtainium when burned or fractured (like nuclear fusion/fission reactors) must provide a whole crap load of power or we would just use anti matter. oh and it is 142 years in the future (from 2010) so we will have advanced but as we can see in the movie MONEY rules all. I will do some research and try and contact Mr. Cameron and ask him, that is when I am not using my Droid in South Center mall.

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ah 142 years, cheers for that :D
yeah oil will have been gone by then lol, not too much of it left really, well, based on our use of it etc etc

anti matter on the other hand, too much confecture around that, what will it do can it do what could it possibly destroy etc, no one really knows much about it before cause its not really produced in any significant quantities (only atoms, a hundred or so antihydrogen atoms have been produced by CERN and Femilab) and the fact that matter exists in everything, something we all tend to forget, we breathe matter (hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and whatever else happens to be in the air at the time) and the fact that when matter and anti matter are mixed it results in annihilation, probably not a pretty thing in anything of significant size (lets say a grain or two, yeah grain is an actual unit of measurement) so we would happen to need to create a perfect vacuum free of anything at all and somehow find a way to suspend whatever antimatter happened to be in there in a permanent position and never allow it to touch anything even while somehow using it as a fuel :P

i think that might still be about 142 years away :P tho it would be real fun to watch it get created

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Quote from: PR-Moller on April 02, 2010, 02:24:22 PM
ah 142 years, cheers for that :D
yeah oil will have been gone by then lol, not too much of it left really, well, based on our use of it etc etc

anti matter on the other hand, too much confecture around that, what will it do can it do what could it possibly destroy etc, no one really knows much about it before cause its not really produced in any significant quantities (only atoms, a hundred or so antihydrogen atoms have been produced by CERN and Femilab) and the fact that matter exists in everything, something we all tend to forget, we breathe matter (hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and whatever else happens to be in the air at the time) and the fact that when matter and anti matter are mixed it results in annihilation, probably not a pretty thing in anything of significant size (lets say a grain or two, yeah grain is an actual unit of measurement) so we would happen to need to create a perfect vacuum free of anything at all and somehow find a way to suspend whatever antimatter happened to be in there in a permanent position and never allow it to touch anything even while somehow using it as a fuel :P

i think that might still be about 142 years away :P tho it would be real fun to watch it get created

I agree, though when using anti matter we would have to find a way to harness the massive energy from the explosion, we would probably use it like we use nuclear reactors but that is just speculation.

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Quote from: PR-Moller on April 02, 2010, 02:24:22 PM

anti matter on the other hand, too much confecture around that, what will it do can it do what could it possibly destroy etc, no one really knows much about it before cause its not really produced in any significant quantities (only atoms, a hundred or so antihydrogen atoms have been produced by CERN and Femilab) and the fact that matter exists in everything, something we all tend to forget, we breathe matter (hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and whatever else happens to be in the air at the time) and the fact that when matter and anti matter are mixed it results in annihilation, probably not a pretty thing in anything of significant size (lets say a grain or two, yeah grain is an actual unit of measurement) so we would happen to need to create a perfect vacuum free of anything at all and somehow find a way to suspend whatever antimatter happened to be in there in a permanent position and never allow it to touch anything even while somehow using it as a fuel :P


We infact know quite a lot about antimatter despite it's rarity(it does occur in nature). And there are methods of storing it, in Penning traps, in essence just devices that trap nucleus using magnetic fields, creating a vacuum isn't even hard these days. As a fuel antimatter is extremely efficient, since all mass is converted into energy(nuclear energy converts about a third). Because of this it's also a very potent weapon, about 1 kg of antimatter is enough to create energies equal to about 50 megatonnes of TNT(the yield of the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated). It would work very similiarly in terms of fusion power. The closest thing we could be using it is to start fusion reactions, since they require high temperatures and energies to start, antimatter annihilation could do this.

I doubt they use unobtainium as a direct power source, but using it to build fusion power plants you could make them more efficient and cost-effective, making cheaper power thus making the creation of antimatter cheaper. This and all other various uses in applications requiring electricity would create a huge demand for it, creating a society that is completely dependent on it.

And all their equipment on pandora uses gas turbines so they have at least some form of high-energy liquid fuel, whatever that may be.
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On the use on unobtanium, I read somewhere (don't ask, I can't remeber) that unobtanium is a room tempeture super conductor (a material that gives no resistance to the flow of electricity).  so in essence, you could use it to store power in the form of electricity indeffinately.  So kinda like a battery, only it doesn't loose power over time.
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yeah but in that 50 megatonne weapon only something like 10% actually created fission, antimatter on the other hand would encorporate total annihilation because of its nature, using penning traps, yes, may sound easy but to store any quantity (remember they only poroduce this stuff in atoms, we all remember how small an atom is right?) will require a lot more advanced technology because of the danger of it possibly slipping out of suspension and the subsequent annhiliation of anthing around it that it touches, also using antimatter as a power source, while theorized, no one actually knows exactly how it could be controlled, what quantities to expose it in or exactly how to do it, remember, its not like a explosion that could, in effect, be contained by building a big enough structure around it and then detonating it, antimatter will in fact annihilate anything around it, so there isnt actually a way ive read about to effectivly "detonate" it as such, without putting lives and structures in jepordy, sorta making its use as a power source useless right now, until we know how to harness it, or we might just kill everyone lol

El Jacko

Well, it only annihilates an EQUAL amount of normal matter, generating energy according to E=mc2 (total conversion of mass into energy).

And the 50MT bomb the Russians made was technically a fusion bomb, releasing a damn sight more energy than Fission could ever achieve.
'Look at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us...on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam' - Carl Sagan

PR-Moller

ah yeah the russian bomb, forgot about that one lmao, i thought (whoever it was who said it first) was referring to a bomb that was actually used in warfare (Hiroshima and Nagasake) which was only a small amount of detonation

and yes while antimatter will only annihilate an equal proportion of matter, there is still no way to make it anihilate it in a "friendly" manner so to speak, we still cant control its reactions, and they are very violent, and we dont really know, if anihilated in a significant portion, what any sort of reaction may be like, we could introduce a few grams of antimatter to matter and take out a city by mistake, that may just make it look a little bad lol, no one wants another chernobyl where people act foolishly at the expense of themselves and others