The Performances of the Actors

Started by Coyote, January 06, 2010, 04:23:11 PM

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I have to say, I am impressed by... Giovanni Ribisi. Seriously. Parker Selfridge comes across as a man who truly does not understand why what he is doing as wrong. He honestly doesn't seem to realize what is going on; he is not so much "evil" as he is just seriously ignorant.

And the thing is, that role could, very easily, have been turned into a moustache-twirling caricature of a villain, making a mockery of the whole thing. Selfridge is a guy doing what he thinks is the best job he can to help Earth and make money, and do so in a "decent" way, or so he thinks. He is a man trappe din his own limitations, but doesn't get turned into some mouth-breathing, cackling cardboard cutout bad-guy saying "kill them all, heehee!". The disaster potential with that role was huge.

Ribisi did a great job with him, portraying the unintentional evil but balancing it with the character's motivations and making it easy to understand why Selfridge thinks he's being "reasonable".

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The whole movie was very well cast indeed. I agree--of all the roles on this movie, Selfridge would be one of the easiest to screw up.

And I gotta say I loved Sam Worthington, even though he seemed to suffer from a chronic case of "Ooh Me Accent's Slipping-itus", but it's all good.
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IMO, Sam Worthington should now be on the edge of a huge breakout in his career. People need to realize that with the precision of the CGMC (or "performance capture as he calls it) technology that Cameron has come up with, everything they saw in Jake Sully was first acted out by Sam. Heck, it had to be even harder to do it through the CG. Zoë and the rest pulled it off too, but Sam nailed his part in every way.

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my vision is clouded my dubious dialogs for sam, zoe and others - they could have looked much better if "someone" was not slacking and put some good, non-corny dialogs instead of placeholders, though I admire how lang, ribsi, pounder managed to squeeze every last bit of expression from thier one-sided roles. Experience shows...

PS: To clarify this abit... I'd rather see the movie with half of english all actors speak been muted out, with only background music and sounds remaining - the performance shows what they feel/want to say...
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I'll say sigourne was my favorite this time around.
Also, anyone have any clue where sam worthington came from? Never heard of him till terminator, now he's everywhere!

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If only they'd had a better script, the actors did a good job across the board but the script made the characters one-dimensional and stereotypical. Maybe that was the intention but still it robbed something from the movie.

Personally i loved Stephen Lang and Giovanni Ribisi, good actors and they did give their characters some form of credibility on the big screen. The biggest thing that bothered me with Sam was that he just couldn't keep his "American" accent, loved the way the Aussie shined through the cracks.
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I did love Selfridge, he was a fantastic character. I don't think we've seen the last of him though. If you remember at the end when the Avatars and the Na'vi were ferrying all the humans back onto the transport ships there's a moment where Selfridge and Jake's eyes meet before Parker looks down and keeps walking.

Wouldn't be surprised if they stuck him in one of the next sequels... I could easily see him as one of those characters that end up becoming a good guy and dying nobly or something.
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Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
I did love Selfridge, he was a fantastic character. I don't think we've seen the last of him though. If you remember at the end when the Avatars and the Na'vi were ferrying all the humans back onto the transport ships there's a moment where Selfridge and Jake's eyes meet before Parker looks down and keeps walking.

Wouldn't be surprised if they stuck him in one of the next sequels... I could easily see him as one of those characters that end up becoming a good guy and dying nobly or something.

Now that you mention it, i can see that too. he wasnt really a bad guy as he was ignorant of what was going on. And you can tell when Quidrach started the assault he seemed to be having regret and remorse.

Though to be honest i am kinda worried WHAT cameron has in store for the sequel. I really dont WANT it to be on pandora, but i should just have faith in James Cameron

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I thought Sam Worthington was great in Terminator... FANTASTIC in Avatar and I hope he'll be just as awesome in Clash of the Titans... that looks like a carnage movie :D
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Quote from: Fya'o Tsuko on January 07, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
I did love Selfridge, he was a fantastic character. I don't think we've seen the last of him though. If you remember at the end when the Avatars and the Na'vi were ferrying all the humans back onto the transport ships there's a moment where Selfridge and Jake's eyes meet before Parker looks down and keeps walking.

Wouldn't be surprised if they stuck him in one of the next sequels... I could easily see him as one of those characters that end up becoming a good guy and dying nobly or something.

Now that you mention it, i can see that too. he wasnt really a bad guy as he was ignorant of what was going on. And you can tell when Quidrach started the assault he seemed to be having regret and remorse.

Though to be honest i am kinda worried WHAT cameron has in store for the sequel. I really dont WANT it to be on pandora, but i should just have faith in James Cameron

Why not Pandora? I mean we hardly got to see everything it has to tell.

Tanhì Tireafya'o

Quote from: Txantslusama tsamsiyu on January 07, 2010, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: Fya'o Tsuko on January 07, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
I did love Selfridge, he was a fantastic character. I don't think we've seen the last of him though. If you remember at the end when the Avatars and the Na'vi were ferrying all the humans back onto the transport ships there's a moment where Selfridge and Jake's eyes meet before Parker looks down and keeps walking.

Wouldn't be surprised if they stuck him in one of the next sequels... I could easily see him as one of those characters that end up becoming a good guy and dying nobly or something.

Now that you mention it, i can see that too. he wasnt really a bad guy as he was ignorant of what was going on. And you can tell when Quidrach started the assault he seemed to be having regret and remorse.

Though to be honest i am kinda worried WHAT cameron has in store for the sequel. I really dont WANT it to be on pandora, but i should just have faith in James Cameron

Why not Pandora? I mean we hardly got to see everything it has to tell.

Because it wouldn't be fair. The Na'vi would have to build up a whole new civilazation while the humans can come and attack again. Or it has to be about another tribe. Don't like the idea of a sequal, unless it'll be better than this movie

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Quote from: Tanhì Tireafya'o on January 07, 2010, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: Txantslusama tsamsiyu on January 07, 2010, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: Fya'o Tsuko on January 07, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
I did love Selfridge, he was a fantastic character. I don't think we've seen the last of him though. If you remember at the end when the Avatars and the Na'vi were ferrying all the humans back onto the transport ships there's a moment where Selfridge and Jake's eyes meet before Parker looks down and keeps walking.

Wouldn't be surprised if they stuck him in one of the next sequels... I could easily see him as one of those characters that end up becoming a good guy and dying nobly or something.

Now that you mention it, i can see that too. he wasnt really a bad guy as he was ignorant of what was going on. And you can tell when Quidrach started the assault he seemed to be having regret and remorse.

Though to be honest i am kinda worried WHAT cameron has in store for the sequel. I really dont WANT it to be on pandora, but i should just have faith in James Cameron

Why not Pandora? I mean we hardly got to see everything it has to tell.

Because it wouldn't be fair. The Na'vi would have to build up a whole new civilazation while the humans can come and attack again. Or it has to be about another tribe. Don't like the idea of a sequal, unless it'll be better than this movie

They'd be finding a new Hometree...not so much building up an entire civilization.
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I see Parker as a person who is struggling to be in power but doesn't have a clue. Eventually the General guy sort of takes over and that's when things get violent.

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Quote from: Tanhì Tireafya'o on January 07, 2010, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: Txantslusama tsamsiyu on January 07, 2010, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: Fya'o Tsuko on January 07, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 06, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
I did love Selfridge, he was a fantastic character. I don't think we've seen the last of him though. If you remember at the end when the Avatars and the Na'vi were ferrying all the humans back onto the transport ships there's a moment where Selfridge and Jake's eyes meet before Parker looks down and keeps walking.

Wouldn't be surprised if they stuck him in one of the next sequels... I could easily see him as one of those characters that end up becoming a good guy and dying nobly or something.

Now that you mention it, i can see that too. he wasnt really a bad guy as he was ignorant of what was going on. And you can tell when Quidrach started the assault he seemed to be having regret and remorse.

Though to be honest i am kinda worried WHAT cameron has in store for the sequel. I really dont WANT it to be on pandora, but i should just have faith in James Cameron

Why not Pandora? I mean we hardly got to see everything it has to tell.

Because it wouldn't be fair. The Na'vi would have to build up a whole new civilazation while the humans can come and attack again. Or it has to be about another tribe. Don't like the idea of a sequal, unless it'll be better than this movie

I definitely agree with you. I think any sequals should be made about a different tribe or...I don't know, something else. However, I would like mentions of the Omaticaya people. That way it would be like we are continuing their story too and we know what is happening with them as we learn about a new people.
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Quote from: Kxamtseng on January 07, 2010, 09:04:01 PM

I definitely agree with you. I think any sequals should be made about a different tribe or...I don't know, something else. However, I would like mentions of the Omaticaya people. That way it would be like we are continuing their story too and we know what is happening with them as we learn about a new people.

Cameron confirmed though that the sequels would be following Jake and Neytiri though, so unless they moved to a different clan (unlikely as it seems as though Jake has become clan leader of the Omaticaya) it'll be about the same tribe.
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Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 07, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: Kxamtseng on January 07, 2010, 09:04:01 PM

I definitely agree with you. I think any sequals should be made about a different tribe or...I don't know, something else. However, I would like mentions of the Omaticaya people. That way it would be like we are continuing their story too and we know what is happening with them as we learn about a new people.

Cameron confirmed though that the sequels would be following Jake and Neytiri though, so unless they moved to a different clan (unlikely as it seems as though Jake has become clan leader of the Omaticaya) it'll be about the same tribe.

Maybe fighting between different tribes? Where Jake tries to stop the fighting? Or another tribe attacks them?

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Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 07, 2010, 09:23:49 PM

Cameron confirmed though that the sequels would be following Jake and Neytiri though, so unless they moved to a different clan (unlikely as it seems as though Jake has become clan leader of the Omaticaya) it'll be about the same tribe.

When/where did he confirm that? Do you have a link?
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Sngä'i Tìrey-yä

Quote from: Txantslusama tsamsiyu on January 07, 2010, 09:58:06 PM
Quote from: Sngä'i Tìrey-yä on January 07, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: Kxamtseng on January 07, 2010, 09:04:01 PM

I definitely agree with you. I think any sequals should be made about a different tribe or...I don't know, something else. However, I would like mentions of the Omaticaya people. That way it would be like we are continuing their story too and we know what is happening with them as we learn about a new people.

Cameron confirmed though that the sequels would be following Jake and Neytiri though, so unless they moved to a different clan (unlikely as it seems as though Jake has become clan leader of the Omaticaya) it'll be about the same tribe.

Maybe fighting between different tribes? Where Jake tries to stop the fighting? Or another tribe attacks them?

That could be really interesting, to see some real na'vi warfare. After how Jake rallied them all around the flag though I wouldn't think it as likely... who would want to attack the tribe that managed to force off all the aliens?

I dunno, I foresee some terrible disease or sickness that attacks eywa or the na'vi people or something tragic that forces Jake and Neytiri to go run around on Pandora or the other planets to find a solution.
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