How about Austrailia?

Started by Txalion, September 30, 2010, 12:10:00 PM

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Txalion

I did some research on Austrailia that I think everyone is going to love.

http://www.ssaa.org.au/hunting/state-and-territory-hunting-regulations.html

Acording to this there are tons of species that are considered "pests" and can be hunted at will on private land! Plus austrailia's imagration policy is not nessarily lax but I believe that if we buy land there, it will make it much easier. This is the best hunting law policy I have heard yet. What do you think?
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Tsteu'itan

O_O  Hot da*n!  Those are actually some amazing pests for hunting and eating.  Rabbits, Hares, Feral goats and Feral pigs, all kinds of deer and cattle, American buffalo.  That's a pretty awesome set of protein animals to choose from.

I will say, though, feral hogs can be reaaaally nasty.  Not saying it's a reason against choosing Australia, just a general note.  In Texas, they're actually a pest, as well.  Wild boars are running amok, and they're free for the taking pretty much any time of the year.  A few of the extermination teams (and it's almost always teams of men who do it for safety, as far as I know) will sometimes roast a pig they take in the wild.  Good eats, man, gooood eats.   :D

Also:  I notice that in one part of the country, Arabian camels are considered pest and can be taken at any time.  That also means they probably wouldn't mind in the least if you kept them for transportation.  They're quite a hardy animal.  They probably live in the outback, though, so that might not be anything useful for the tribe.  They do have wild horses that can be taken at any time, though, so those might be more in the area the tribe was looking at.

Nantxe'lan

QuoteIn the Northern Territory, the following species are classified as feral and can be taken any time. The following animals have been declared pests.

  • Arabian camel
[...]

WTF?!?!?!
camels? in australia? how did that happen? ;D

about wild boars: i know a quote from a forester who said that he doesn't want to face a wild boar with anything smaller than caliber .308, so i think trying to hunt wild boars on ground level even with a big hunting party would be too dangerous...

Australia would be nice, however there are some things which could be troublesome for us:
- most of the fertile ground is allready occupied by ranches or farms.
- not much forested area. (sub)tropical climate is rare.
- while australia 's most common diseases are equal to NA or european diseases and parasitic insects are rather rare, it is full of deadly animals, mostly snakes and spiders.
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Key'ìl Nekxetse

I'd like to avoid poisonous spiders, but that might not be possible.
I can't be doing with them when they're not deadly, I think I'd be absolutely petrified if I knew they could kill me.
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Esmond

Yeah, I remember Australia has a collection of the deadliest and largest spiders around.

Yikes! *shivers*

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Oh, how I miss Australia. It would be two dreams come true if our tribe settled there!

Perhaps our upcoming location crushing research could include it.


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Txalion

Just found some interesting stuff on Australian spiders. Apparently the most deadly of the australian spiders only lives near Sydney and the bite is rare. When you do get bitten you have a whole 24 hours to get the antivenom. Most of the spiders look nasty and mean, but almost all have antivenom and those that don't are harmless.
http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/australian_spiders.html
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Letxuma Swizaw

most of them dont bother you unless you run over them with a lawn mower though, so they aren't really an issue.

The scrool box in this link is a list of some properties that might suit our needs. just a quick example i didnt really look at any of them in depth.
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Txalion

I found this, and I like what I see. Not big enough but this website has butt loads of listings. If anyone wants to look here as well feel free.

http://www.real-estate-australia.com.au/qld/properties.php?show=adv&p_type=rl&price%5B%5D=0&region_is=FAR+NORTH+QUEENSLAND&location_is=**+ALL+LOCATIONS+**&postcodes=1&disp=20&sold=y&start=Do+Search
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Letxuma Swizaw

One of the first places i ever suggested back in the day was in Tasmania but i know their environmental laws are a lot stricter than mainland aussie-land i dont know how much that would interfere with our hunting.
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Txalion

The mainland is spacious whereas Tasmania is getting very populated. The only thing that I think will be hard about Australia will be imagration. We can find suitable land, we can deal with wildlife, but imagration is going to be tough. I reaserched it a bit, and you have to get a work visa and they only want people in spesific occupations. Then applying for citizenship is even more of a problem, but I think we can skip the learning English problem.
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Tsteu'itan

*Foams at the mouth*  OMG, I'm in love!  http://www.real-estate-australia.com.au/Display1.php?agents_id=1789&id=380696

Granted, it's not much land, but I love it!  that's so gorgeous!  That's the kind of land I want when I look for my own home settlement.  8>  *going off on a non-tribe tangent, though, derp derp*

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I looked at that one too and I love it, if only it were bigger *sigh*. Anyway I found a property that was about two thousand acers, but the land is not where we want it. Finding just the right place is really hard.  :-\
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Tsteu'itan

You could always look into buying multiple plots of land that are right next to each other.

It would get kind of expensive, but if you were able to find the land you wanted, it would possibly be worth it.

Predict

Having lived in Australia I can say there are a few very significant problems. As a country it is ideal, immigration is far from flexible however.

Immigration is handled on a points system (to quantify your potential value to the country), it is safe to say you cannot 'get in' without a job lined up at the other end. Further education is also a requirement (might be a problem for some). Immigration laws have in the past been more relaxed (it has been famously easy for certain 'refugees' to claim asylum) but even this has been restricted.

Regrettably everything else is perfect (in my somewhat biased opinion ;D). As for the spiders: the country has gone without any fatalities for years. Anti-venoms are quite readily available (kind of), the more isolated farms often have their own and I am sure we could carry those appropriate to our location - fridge mandatory. Despite what some of these websites are suggesting, outside Sydney land costs nothing. I know of people who run a horse business and they have over 10,000 acres just west of the blue mountains, that is considered a small property in some respects. Given that the total land area is, get ready for it: 1.9 thousand million (billion) acres it's no surprise. 

Esmond

Wow......that's a lot of land.

Hmm......illegal entry anyone?

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Txalion

If you can figure it out I'm game. ^_^ The imagration thing should be no problem for me (mostly because I want to be a teacher, and education jobs are always high in demand), and I have family there too. I wouldn't mind finding a way to get us all there legaly.
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The difficultly is that you can't, for example, simply find a job, get citizenship and move in. You need to begin on a permanent vias (possibly a work visa) work there then after 5 years apply for citizenship (I think it's 5, at least 3). Personally I'm good with Australia as I'm already Australian but I imagine it would be too difficult for most.

Family is difficult, children of citizens can apply straight for citizenship, no strings attached. Otherwise you're really looking at marriage, I'm not aware of any other relation that will get you citizenship outright.  Then again having someone in the country makes the paperwork easier and may score you some points.