Last poll about the area

[auroraglacialis]

Have any of you put more research into areas that are not either jungle or cold areas? Also, I cannot support, that all rainforest ribes are "messed up". Some are very peaceful societies. The problem of course is, that they had centuries to be accustomed to the area and learn from the forest. Just like the rainforest is no extraordinary danger for the Na'Vi or city traffic and electricity and kitchen appliances are no exceptional danger for us. We all adapted to our respective environments, know its dangers and how to avoid them.
That said, I think it may be easier for westerners to re-adapt to a temperate forest, plains or subtropical conditions than deserts, hot-humid jungle or thornbush savannah.
I have to emphasis though, that one of the major obstacles of living in temperate regions like Canada is the winter. We do not recognize this much anymore and have lost some knowledge on how to deal with this without in a primitivists way. Fire warms a bit, but many of the ancient buildings and living structures up into medieval times were cold, windowless and leaky (regarding wind) even if a fire was burning. Large amounts of firewood are needed and really warm clothes and one cannot expect to do a lot in these times as days are short (like 4-5 hours of light a day). So in these times people get tired and lazy and this is even true for some modern people with artificial light available and all that. On good days hunting is possible and collecting firewood, but mostly I think it is sitting around a fire covered in thick blankets and telling stories and sleeping a lot.
In more equatorial regions, regular activity can go on throughout the year, but there may be rains or dry seasons.
A mediterranean climate is great, that is why so many people really like it there. It almost never snows and periannal plants can survive easy, many fruit trees grow and animals need less shelter.

Ok, just dropped my ponderings on location here

Greetings, Aurora

[Amaya]

Okay.  I realize I have nothing to do with the tribe (apart from following all your efforts) but "going tribal", as it were, is something I considered in my younger days, and as I actually LIVE in the area of British Columbia I think most people are thinking of when they discuss it as a possible location, I feel I need to clear up some misinformation, particularly that of the previous poster.

IT IS NOT COLD HERE.

Okay, it isn't tropical, but it also isn't SUBARCTIC.  The shortest days of the year start around 8am and end around 4pm, that is far more than 4-5 hours.  The average daily temperature here even in December and January is still around 5 degrees C, and the area is not simply a forest like Europeans think of a forest, with all the animals long since wiped out by humans, this is a TEMPERATE RAINFOREST.  That means that yes, we do have a high degree of biodiversity, especially if you take into account not only the forest itself, but the seas surrounding it.  The food density is still good, and before the settlement by "white people" the food density was so high that this area was the only one in the world where tribes were able to evolve highly sophisticated governmental systems and art objects without ever needing to "advance" past being hunter-gatherers.

This http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/CL1108446/cabc0308 might help give those who don't live around here some idea of what the weather conditions are actually like.  Please keep in mind that when it talks about "average snowfall" that primarily refers to the slopes of the mountains in and around the city of Vancouver.  http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/CL1018611/cabc0313 is closer to what it is actually like at and close to sea level, but the statistics on that page are less detailed which is why I think people need also to look at Vancouver.

Anyway, this is turning into a rant, which is not what I intended at all, I just want people to be properly informed and able to make a decision.  I'll just say one last thing.  Consider the fact that planes go down around here (BC, Washington, Oregon and the north part of California, all known as "cascadia") and are not found for decades, so it's pretty easy to slip into the deeper parts of the forest here and live quietly for years as long as you pick your location right.

Good luck to all of you! and if you want more information about the south coast of BC, please just ask!

[Tonbogiri]

You make a very good case.
It certainly seems that BC is a prime location for the tribe.

Got to watch out for them falling planes!

[Txontaw]

Sounds cool (no pun intended )! We'll definitely need to check that out more!

[auroraglacialis]

Hello, Amaya.
I apologize for maybe writing things that gave a wrong impression. I have not yet been to Canada and was only told that the climate is similar to northern Europe. And that I know from experience. Some of my points may still hold, though. The daylight probably varies depending on location, but I see that parts are in the latitude of Stockholm at about 60°N and that is the area in which sunlight drops to about 6 hours a day (less in the northern parts of Scandinavia). Even 8 hours a day is less than most people from the middle or southern parts of the US have experienced.

The vicinity of an ocean (I did not know that this was inferred in that location choice) is always a good thing when it comes to living there regarding temperatures. It makes a huge difference! Still, temperatures averaging 5°C (meaning it gets much colder in the nights) is something to be dealt with by keeping a fire up at all times and build some rather stable and insulated structures for living, right? Of course that can be done - In northern Europe there used to be plenty of people living in ancient times, just want to point out that this can also be harsh. But I personally like to sit around a fire and tell stories

I have to admit, that I cannot say anything about temperate rainforests. I can imagine gardening to be difficult in such a region because of the late onset of summer, but probably hunting and fishing are highly productive. The cold winter can probably also make preservation of fish and meat easier.

Overall, your expertise from first hand is very valuable and I think this is exactly the kind of information that is needed for a decision on location. So thanks for correcting my mistakes and contributing with your knowledge.

I found an interesting website that holds climate tables and charts for many regions: http://www.climate-charts.com - this may be a valuable tool for researching locations

[Swokéyan]

Looks pretty awesome, but i dont really know how to use it 

[Hufwe ta'em]

Great i dont need to get an visa to other country
but the price of life in BC are very expensive

[Tzmukan III]

British columbia is not cold (though where I live it get's down to -40 and then up to 40 celcius). 

[Nanaki]

Where I live it's between -10 in winter and +20 in summer ... but it's really cold ! Before I was living in south of France, and it was between +15 and +35 all the year so ...

[guest2859]

I'mma just going to say I want this to be an island deal, so NZ or OC would fit me just fine.

[sezawte]

I'mma just going to say I want this to be an island deal, so NZ or OC would fit me just fine.

Same

[Txon Taronyu]

well we need to find a forest in a wet/dry tropical in BC in ociana

[sezawte]

By BC do you mean British Columbia? because my understanding was that was in the general Canada area...

[Txon Taronyu]

BC= British columbia nobody says that in Canada we just say BC

[sezawte]

Errmm... Well... How do i put this... The red on the map indicates what is defined as British Columbia



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia

[Txon Taronyu]

I know

[abi]

He's meaning that when you said "in BC in ociana" it implied that you thought BC was in oceania.

[Txon Taronyu]

OK then... you all know I am not an idoit right

I was just saying that from the results of all the poles it was a joke *sigh*

[sezawte]

Ahh ok I see where you're coming from now. Sorry about that then.

[Predict]

Your joke about the polls addresses an important issue I have mentioned a few times lately (probably sounding like a broken record ) that we can't just jump in and be as specific as one region without knowing (and I mean Knowing knowing of the without a doubt kind) broader criteria we want like climate and biome.
British Columbia is not only impractical for non-US members but seems to have (although I am no expert about Canada) quite extreme temperatures and is nowhere near sub-tropical, which is want we seem to want. Again, we want as easy a time as possible with this because no matter how easy it looks it won't be.
Personally, I don't want to be freezing to death thinking about the beautiful meditteranean island we rejected. You can probably tell I'm not fond of the cold.