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Re: New location!
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2011, 08:31:33 pm »

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Tourism is Kauaʻi's largest industry. In 2007, 1,271,000 visitors came to Kauaʻi. The two largest groups were from the United States (84% of all visitors) and Japan (3%).[8] As of 2003, there were a total of approximately 27,000 jobs on Kauaʻi, of which the largest sector was accommodation/food services (26%, 6,800 jobs) followed by government (15%) and retail (14.5%), with agriculture accounting for just 2.9% (780 jobs) and educational services providing just 0.7% (183 jobs).[9] In terms of income, the various sectors that constitute the visitors industry accounted for one third of Kauai's income.[9] On the other hand, employment is dominated by small businesses, with 87% of all nonfarm businesses having fewer than 20 employees.[9] As of 2003, Kauaʻi's unemployment rate was 3.9%, compared to 3.0% for the entire state and 5.7% for the United States as a whole; and, Kauaʻi's poverty rate was 10.5%, compared to the State's 10.7%.[9]

As of mid-2004, the median price of a single-family home was $528,000, a 40% increase over 2003. As of 2003, Kauaʻi's percentage of home ownership, 48%, was significantly lower than the State's 64%, and vacation homes were a far larger part of the housing stock than the State-wide percentage (Kauaʻi 15%, State 5%).[9]

In the past, sugar plantations were Kauaʻi's most important industry, but most of that land is now used for ranching.[8] Kauaʻi's sole remaining sugar operation, the 118-year-old Gay & Robinson Plantation plans to transform itself into a manufacturer of sugar-cane ethanol.[8]

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Re: New location!
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2011, 09:32:48 pm »
All of Hawai'iyä islands are spelled in nìNa'vi letters! Islands

That's because Hawaiian was a spoken language that was transcribed by english missionaries and explorers. Same way "Na'vi" was/is/will be.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maui

That will be more relevant as Haleakala is situated on Maui, not Kaua'i. And my apologies earlier about stating the geographical location on the island. You will actaully be on the windward side of the island, which means more prone to wind torrents, and the effects of the winter seasonal storms.

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Interior Lowlands – Intermediate conditions, often sharing characteristics of other lowland sub-regions. Occasionally experience intense local afternoon showers from well-developed clouds that formed due to local daytime heating.

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Windward Lowlands – Below 2,000 feet (610 m) on north- to northeast-sides of an island. Roughly perpendicular to direction of prevailing trade winds. Moderately rainy; frequent trade wind-induced showers. Skies are often cloudy to partly cloudy. Air temperatures are more uniform (and mild) than those of other regions.

These two entries are most relevant regarding the climate.
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2011, 09:58:21 pm »
Hm... then Google Maps lied to me. No, wonder why I read the map wrong.

But, torrents may not be the best of things.... We should be up in the trees for situation, but whether or not the waves can attack us there, I'm not sure.


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Re: New location!
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2011, 07:07:27 pm »
mmmmm hawaii <3    i'm in!!  ;D
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Re: New location!
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2011, 03:29:54 am »
Erk, actually on the windward side. And there I was thinking we had got off lightly...still, wherever we go, we will have to find some ways of dealing with the inclement weather conditions - nowhere is perfect, after all. In terms of having to hide in the trees...tell me ExLibrisMortis, would we be far enough inland to prevent flooding? Or would such a thing be a semi-regular occurence?


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Re: New location!
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2011, 07:57:33 am »
In terms of having to hide in the trees...tell me ExLibrisMortis, would we be far enough inland to prevent flooding? Or would such a thing be a semi-regular occurence?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maui

This has a lot of information that is quite valuable, but for this question, i'll grab a few excerpts.

Quote from: Rainfall
At the other extreme, the annual average rainfall exceeds 300 inches (7,600 mm) along the lower windward slopes of Haleakalā, particularly along the Hāna Highway. If the islands of the State of Hawaii did not exist, the average annual rainfall on the same patch of water would be about 25 inches (640 mm). Instead, the actual average is about 70 inches (1,800 mm). Thus, the islands extract from the air that passes over them about 45 inches (1,100 mm) of rainfall that otherwise would not fall. The mountainous topography of Maui and the other islands is responsible for this added water bonus.

Quote from: Rainforest
Maui is home to a large rainforest on the northeastern flanks of Haleakalā, which serves as the drainage basin for the rest of the island. The extremely difficult terrain has prevented exploitation of much of the forest.

So, in terms of flooding, by that information alone, it stands to say that yes, there is a great chance of this. Yet, the specific piece of terrain you guys would be purchasing may be different, against the norm. But once again, this information states otherwise.

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« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2011, 11:33:03 am »
Could we avoid flooding causing problems by using stilts on buildings and using large trees for smaller structures?
Would regular flooding bring in silts to make agriculture easier?
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Re: New location!
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2011, 01:39:07 pm »
The rain alone, plus volcanic soil is enough to create good farming, flooding would only be a hindrance

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Re: New location!
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2011, 01:52:30 pm »
Perhaps this explains the relatively low price tag. Oddly enough, I have struggles to find any land of the same size...choice may be limited in Hawaii.


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Re: New location!
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2011, 02:10:29 pm »
In my opinion, build flood walls, direct the flow of the water around/away from the living areas. Also, can be used to trap water/irrigation also.

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Re: New location!
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2011, 06:40:39 pm »
I have to say, i'm glad for ExLibrisMortis' insight. Of course the land agent would conveniently leave out the possible flooding...will report back soon.

Hmm, dams and water control systems. Sadly for me, that sounds like too much reliance, not to mention an enormous cost increase. On the plus side, drainage basins such as this often have the greatest populations of game animals (until the floods start, obviously...), and a wider variety of fauna - which means more edible plants!

Looks like this location has good and bad points too. Reminds me of a saying I heard when applying for university - "don't trust the sunny pictures. Check it out when it's bucketing down with rain, then you'll see if you want to go there."


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Re: New location!
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2011, 06:50:58 pm »
Water control system would be nothing more than a well designed wall with adequate drainage system, couple with canals to funnel the water. Throw in a bit of sloped floor plans for your establishment and success. Its something that can go into the original blueprints, and no matter where you decide it to happen, should be in those plans anyways.
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Re: New location!
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2011, 05:13:52 pm »
(i hope you all understand what i mean because english isn't my native language)

i don't know whether it's ok but i found 2 properties in COSTA RICA

they are almost the same size (141/138 acres)

http://www.costa-rica-immobilien.com/immobilien-angebote/334-1-83-213/index.html

http://www.costa-rica-immobilien.com/immobilien-angebote/401-1-83-213/index.html

( this one is near to national parks )

and the last one (371 acres)

http://www.costa-rica-immobilien.com/immobilien-angebote/229-1-83-213/index.html

(it's surrounded by national parks )

it's in german but if anyone want to know more i'll translate it :)

plz tell me what you think about (i know it's not a perfect location but it's cheaper then hawai)
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Re: New location!
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2011, 05:00:25 pm »
Very good finds Navi - it is good that there are other places available. Certainly, this is cheaper, and merits further investigation - I am currently busy with an Australian location, but the key things we need to know:

Whether immigration can be possible into Costa Rica,
What animals/plants grow in the area,
Whether there are any climate issues (such as LOTS of rain...or none at all)

I like the first location - the pictures look promising, and the price for the land size is encouraging!

Note: Always have a long list of locations when doing long term ventures. Some may come off the market, or have other problems - we need to narrow down to several definite places.


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Re: New location!
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2011, 09:55:55 am »
Note that the Revolutionists are currently undertaking thorough location research. Hopefully there will be some major progress soon. Of course, this should benefit both groups! ;D
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Re: New location!
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2011, 10:54:48 am »
http://www.costa-rica-immobilien.com/immobilien-angebote/229-1-83-213/index.html

it's expensive but it's probably the best choice because it's surrounded from national parks and away from tourism, it was a tropical station but now it's a "normal" house with many rooms and bungalows and it's far away from civilisation (8000 meters)


 the immigration is really easy (for people from the USA, CANADA or the EUROPEAN UNION)

http://www.costaricaimmigration.com/immigration.htm
http://www.costaricalaw.com/legalnet/residency.html


Costa Rica haven't an army or something, and there are more doctors as policemen but the   crime rate is very low, the state go straight to ecotourism (25% of the surface are national parks)

animals (in the area i postet at the begin of this message) :

jaguar/manigordo
alligator/caiman/crocodile
toucan,ara, etc (over 340 species of birds)
tapir
sloth
apes (different species)
spiders
many reptiles
many insects
fish
frogs
and so on

i'm searching on the internet for the laws for hunting, taxes and so on

i hope it sounds good for all of you :)
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Re: New location!
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2011, 11:39:20 am »
I like the sound of this area, but there is still the issue of medical help. Yes, isolation is all well and good, but we want to be close enough to a hospital where we can run someone there in an emergency-we don't want to be hours away from help while someone is bleeding to death. Just my honest opinion.

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« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2011, 11:44:39 am »
Great research! This looks like a good location (although I don't like spiders! :o).
So long as we have someone with first aid training, no one should be able to bleed to death. We should certainly have a first aid kit on site and some medical equipment.
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Re: New location!
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2011, 04:53:12 pm »
http://www.costa-rica-immobilien.com/immobilien-angebote/229-1-83-213/index.html

it's expensive but it's probably the best choice because it's surrounded from national parks and away from tourism, it was a tropical station but now it's a "normal" house with many rooms and bungalows and it's far away from civilisation (8000 meters)

it actually has some huge advantages, the allready set up buildings for example.
and i really hate to be again the one with the bad news but it apears to be ment as a vacation destination. buy it and rent the bungalows.

- the buildings have ceiling fans and toilets/bathrooms, so there must be a connection to the local energy grid and sewer system

- there is a restaurant at the settlement, so there are allways some "outsiders" around and i guess there's some kind of lease contract which could make it difficult to get rid of them. or the purchase agreement might even include to use the area in a way the restaurant still gets some customers to serve...

- not sure about this, but this area used to be part of a national park so it might be still under conservation. hunting and fishing as well as agriculture could become dificult.
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Re: New location!
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2011, 06:04:54 pm »
yeah, i'd say look in brazil

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