Tribal "Dress Code"

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Nìftxavang Sreu

Good point. I think that inter-tribal reproduction only makes sence. But that group as a whole would have to wait 5-10 years before such things would happen, so as to be well established enough to support children.


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Quote from: Nìftxavang Sreu on March 04, 2010, 04:58:55 PM
Good point. I think that inter-tribal reproduction only makes sence. But that group as a whole would have to wait 5-10 years before such things would happen, so as to be well established enough to support children.

True :)
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The ageing population is a major issue, one that would probably require its own thread. MAJOR ETHICAL POINT.

But back to dress codes, I feel that rank (novice, initiate, elder) should be indicated by a difference in clothing, but our primary garments should be natural in origin - animal skins (leaves ;D) - and if they are unavailable then t-shirts and shorts for all.

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Nìftxavang Sreu

Fantastic point! (and thanks for getting us back on topic. karma cookie for you!) You can see it in the tribe (almost) Mo'at and Ey'tukan both have very extensive almost costuming to their clothes. I know this is mainly because they are the clan leaders, but they really don't show any "old" tribe members in the movie, so I agree that we should follow that example. The older tribe members wear more elaborate clothing, to show their seniority, almost like a badge of honor for all the tough times they've been through in the tribe  :)


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i would def. lean towards the animal skins with feathers/beads as decorative components, more grass / leave materials tend to decay quickly and i wouldn't picture to be the most comfortable.  that being said cotton is a natural commodity in areas depending on where we should settle there are many old-fashioned ways to weave it.

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As many of you already mentioned it, I think the best is to go with what ever suit where we will be. In the end, it's all about practicality.
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well to start with, before we start to make our own ( lioncloths would probably be teh best, gives good mobility, or some orm of tight fitting trouser that Neytiri flies in) would to have leightweight trousers, there cheap, easy to fix, can be made into shorts, dry quickly if wet, can be washed easilt, come in a good range of colours and are very lighweight (hence teh name)

I doubt most of us would like to start straight away with noting to hide our modesty (not that im embarressed or anything)

and the Idea of having trainees or novices in different atire is a good idea





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Quote from: Twonyu Ikranä on March 05, 2010, 03:01:31 AM
well to start with, before we start to make our own ( lioncloths would probably be teh best, gives good mobility, or some orm of tight fitting trouser that Neytiri flies in) would to have leightweight trousers, there cheap, easy to fix, can be made into shorts, dry quickly if wet, can be washed easilt, come in a good range of colours and are very lighweight (hence teh name)

I doubt most of us would like to start straight away with noting to hide our modesty (not that im embarressed or anything)

and the Idea of having trainees or novices in different atire is a good idea

Interesting, I like this ;)
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ill find my pair and take a picture to show what they are like there pretty much trousers but thinner and then be unzipped to be shorts





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Okay, here's my fifty cents:

Yes, I think that clothing should be practical according to our location.  Hopefully we'll be somewhere warm where loincloths and such are available and practical for use.  For females, tops should be required [or at least strongly encouraged], especially since most people are young that are joining... and at least in the beginning I know I won't be comfortable walking around with my two bits hanging out.  I mean, I'm not modest by any means, but still.  At least until we get to know each other some more.

Also, with almost no clothes worn, reproduction [and other aspects of relationships] will be inevitable.  Sorry to put it like that, but its true.  You all know it.  In order to avoid the impregnation we should require everyone to use protection or BC of some sort, at least until we're established and we settle the whole citizenship and stuff issue.

Kids should be covered. Period.  No question on that.  We don't need lawsuits.  Or to be registered as child-molesters.  Thanks.

For the whole seniority thing: that is something that should be up to the elders themselves, if they want to wear such things.  I know I don't.  But yes, something to signify that someone is a hunter, or a fisher, or whatever.  Like, a certain colour feather in the hair or something.  That would make sense, and also help signify couples once they're established.


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Quote from: Hawnu UnilTxep on March 05, 2010, 03:08:36 PM
Okay, here's my fifty cents:

Yes, I think that clothing should be practical according to our location.  Hopefully we'll be somewhere warm where loincloths and such are available and practical for use.  For females, tops should be required [or at least strongly encouraged], especially since most people are young that are joining... and at least in the beginning I know I won't be comfortable walking around with my two bits hanging out.  I mean, I'm not modest by any means, but still.  At least until we get to know each other some more.

Also, with almost no clothes worn, reproduction [and other aspects of relationships] will be inevitable.  Sorry to put it like that, but its true.  You all know it.  In order to avoid the impregnation we should require everyone to use protection or BC of some sort, at least until we're established and we settle the whole
citizenship and stuff issue.
Kids should be covered. Period.  No question on that.  We don't need lawsuits.  Or to be registered as child-molesters.  Thanks.For the whole seniority thing: that is something that should be up to the elders themselves, if they want to wear such things.  I know I don't.  But yes, something to signify that someone is a hunter, or a fisher, or whatever.  Like, a certain colour feather in the hair or something.  That would make sense, and also help signify couples once they're established.

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QuoteOkay, here's my fifty cents:

Yes, I think that clothing should be practical according to our location.  Hopefully we'll be somewhere warm where loincloths and such are available and practical for use.  For females, tops should be required [or at least strongly encouraged], especially since most people are young that are joining... and at least in the beginning I know I won't be comfortable walking around with my two bits hanging out.  I mean, I'm not modest by any means, but still.  At least until we get to know each other some more.

Also, with almost no clothes worn, reproduction [and other aspects of relationships] will be inevitable.  Sorry to put it like that, but its true.  You all know it.  In order to avoid the impregnation we should require everyone to use protection or BC of some sort, at least until we're established and we settle the whole citizenship and stuff issue.

Kids should be covered. Period.  No question on that.  We don't need lawsuits.  Or to be registered as child-molesters.  Thanks.

For the whole seniority thing: that is something that should be up to the elders themselves, if they want to wear such things.  I know I don't.  But yes, something to signify that someone is a hunter, or a fisher, or whatever.  Like, a certain colour feather in the hair or something.  That would make sense, and also help signify couples once they're established

which is why trousers might be a good idea to start with
especially the part about sex





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Not trying to sound like some creep here, but I think it might be the case of less clothes the better because they get in the way, I think just basic coverage will do, at least after we've settled in well
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I can see where both sides are coming from on the "clothes vs. no clothes"

Quote from: Hawnu UnilTxep on March 05, 2010, 03:08:36 PM
In order to avoid the impregnation we should require everyone to use protection or BC of some sort, at least until we're established and we settle the whole citizenship and stuff issue.

I agree that honestly, if we're allowed to only bring a few non "home made" items to the tribe condoms and or birth control should be at the top of the list.

But back to clothes, I think that transitioning into tribal clothing is very important. Or, if a person is very comfortable with themselves, and the original tribal clothes makes them comfortable from the get go, they should be allowed to wear that.


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Quote from: Hawnu UnilTxep on March 05, 2010, 03:08:36 PM

But back to clothes, I think that transitioning into tribal clothing is very important. Or, if a person is very comfortable with themselves, and the original tribal clothes makes them comfortable from the get go, they should be allowed to wear that.
off course, isn't the whole idea from this tribe based around the na'vi people? what do they wear?

I know we'll probably can't dress like them from the beginning because off what our body's used to, but i intend to go as much "back to basics" as i can.

i've been dreaming about something like this for a long time and even more since i've seen AVATAR, so let's just do it to the maximum.
Eventually our body's will grow into this and become more strong and protective against the dangerous environment.
And i don't think you'll have to wait generations for your body to adept.
In extreme situations a person can do almost mirakels just to survive.
It's just unbelievable you only check youtube and you'll find a thousand of "almost" mirakels from people standing on life's-end (not that i want us to go that far but in a worst-case-scenario ... you never know).

Nìftxavang Sreu

Agreed. I think that our bodies want that. They want to go back to what they were created to be, not what we've become. These scrawny little pink things that can't fend for themselves. I want to go native, become tribal, in every way possible.


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Quote from: Nìftxavang Sreu on March 05, 2010, 09:00:31 PM
Agreed. I think that our bodies want that. They want to go back to what they were created to be, not what we've become. These scrawny little pink things that can't fend for themselves. I want to go native, become tribal, in every way possible.
i couldn't express it anyway better than you.

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yeah. most of the things we are discussing on the board-including this- is all dependant on location, which we have no clue about so far.
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