How To: Your Own Dreamwalker [Project Pandora] {Updated!}

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Teio

Ah! I do think some people are lucid dreamers in the first place, even if they cannot control what they dream about, initially. Whenever I find myself in such a dream, however...I find that I always feel myself waking up just as things are the best...really awful, because it's like I can see and hear and feel EVERYTHING in my dream, but I am also aware of the sensation of laying down and hearing other things (i.e. my humidifier, my bird, the sound of my own movements on the pillow, etc.) Any solutions for STAYING asleep?

Swok Txon

i am so doing this!

I will actually enjoy sleeping more!

P.S. yeah i have had many lucid dream moments before

they are fantastic!

Robert Nantangä Tirea

Just one time when I was younger I had a dream "continuation" where I was in the middle of a dream and I actively remembered having dreamed about that place before.

What happened was I had a dream where I was standing in a room with a bunch of old snack and soda vending machines. I started exploring around them for loose change and I discovered on the back of one a panel that I could open and pull all the quarters out of the machine. Mixed in the hundreds of quarters was some rare coins and silver dollars as well, I was so excited I thought I was rich.

I didn't think about the dream right after I woke up, but later that day it suddenly came back to me and I realized it was not true and I didn't find all those that change. I was pretty disappointed.

Some weeks later I had a very similar dream, and in the middle of it I thought "Wow! I remember dreaming this, but this time it's real!". Needless to say, I wasn't as thrilled when I woke up.

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Robert Nantangä Tirea

Quote from: Teio on January 07, 2010, 10:24:30 PM
Ah! I do think some people are lucid dreamers in the first place, even if they cannot control what they dream about, initially. Whenever I find myself in such a dream, however...I find that I always feel myself waking up just as things are the best...really awful, because it's like I can see and hear and feel EVERYTHING in my dream, but I am also aware of the sensation of laying down and hearing other things (i.e. my humidifier, my bird, the sound of my own movements on the pillow, etc.) Any solutions for STAYING asleep?

This happens to me sometimes, I'll be in the middle of a dream and wake up. For me, I just roll over and go back to sleep as fast and possible thinking about where I was and what was going on in the dream. When I fall back asleep I usually manage to pick back up where I left off. Those dreams don't tend to be very lucid thogh, it feels more like watching a movie.

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Doxy

Quote from: Teio on January 07, 2010, 10:24:30 PM
Ah! I do think some people are lucid dreamers in the first place, even if they cannot control what they dream about, initially. Whenever I find myself in such a dream, however...I find that I always feel myself waking up just as things are the best...really awful, because it's like I can see and hear and feel EVERYTHING in my dream, but I am also aware of the sensation of laying down and hearing other things (i.e. my humidifier, my bird, the sound of my own movements on the pillow, etc.) Any solutions for STAYING asleep?

I do. :) If you begin to feel the sensation of laying in bed after lucidity has been achieved, there are a few suggested tactics.

1. Spin your dream body. This will encourage your brain to simulate the feeling of being spun, and will keep you down for a while longer.

2. Also, you could rub your hands together. This is not as effective, but your brain will try to simulate the feeling of hands being rubbed against eachother.

3. Scratch your head, stomp your feet, click your teeth, anything like that.

The above suggestions are mentioned in the wiki article. They work about 90%-95% of the time.

Tanhì Tireafya'o

Quote from: kxanì tsamsiyu on January 05, 2010, 07:26:21 PM
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Quote from: Toruk Maktoyu on January 05, 2010, 07:07:33 PM
But I have the utmost belief that our brains can do ANYTHING. It's just a matter of working out how.

Well we do only use about 5% - 10% of our brain so my question is what was the other 90% of the brain used for before we lost the ability to use it.  ???

I know right? And even that is beyond the scope of what we can think of... I mean, something like levitation and flying is probably only like 20%. Materializing objects is maybe 30%... So what the hell would it be at 90% or 100%?!

Even Einstein only used 10% - 15% and he was one of the smartest, if not the smartest man ever. so maybe even teleportation would be possible. Say you close your eyes and think of a place and open them again and your there. But it is impossible to know and our minds wouldn't even be able to comprehend that.
Fell asleep when trying to teleport. It was a great nap. Thanks.  :P

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Quote from: Tanhì Tireafya'o on January 09, 2010, 01:41:10 PM

Fell asleep when trying to teleport. It was a great nap. Thanks.  :P

Teleportation as a sleep facilitator? Fascinating!


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Stay on topic. This thread isnt about teleporting yourself, its about lucid dreaming.

Tengfya swizaw

Quote from: Nume fpi sänume on January 09, 2010, 03:48:21 PM
Stay on topic. This thread isnt about teleporting yourself, its about lucid dreaming.
I'd make a suitably dry comment in reply, but that would be off-topic and you're a mod. So.

Back on topic, I've tried actively remembering dreams I've had, and it seems to be working. I dream a lot more than I realize. The first night after reading some articles on lucidity, I dreamt of standing on a table, checking my hands to make sure I had all of my fingers, and looking in a mirror. In them, I was escited because I thought Iwas lucid. When I woke up, I realized that they were mere anxiety dreams or a sort.
I'm making progress, regardless.


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Kaltxì!
A year or two ago I was going to try and "do" lucid dreaming. The steps were so overwhelming I forgot about it. I never thought about lucid dreaming again, until I saw this post. Now, I will do whatever it takes.
I just hope I won't end up like the guy from, The Twilght Zone: Next Stop Willabee

Irayo
My uncle's dog came over a little less than one week ago. I stupidly left the computer plug on the floor. That night, his dog chewed it up. So, the next morning, I go looking for the plug and I find a chewed up piece of metal. I sadly cannot purchase a new plug right now, and my computer's battery is out. I'm at my public library.

Also, I discovered this promising "small business" film company called Mirror Entertainment. It looks really promising: http://www.mirrorente

Tanhì Tireafya'o

Yay.. I'm picking it up as fast as I hoped to. Since I already had this as a child but thanks to high-school and 'growing-up' it faded away. I remember it was great fun having it.

Well here's a small log of it.
Day 0 (before reading): Can't remember
Day 1: Some dream about something that'll happen with my nephew.
Day 2: Don't remember much, all I could remember was the word Illuminate. Why? I'm curious to know..
Day 3: *Will be soon here*
Tip: Writing things down helps you remember, so after you wake up in the morning you can read it trough and sometimes you can connect them with each other. :)

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Tsway'eion

So i tried an experiment with one of my friends little brothers one night.

It was early in the morning and he had yet to wake up, so i played some very soft quiet background music from a cd that i had.

He had just read Eragon the night before, so while he was sleeping away, and slightly snoring, i whispered into his ear about a battle that was taking place and he where he was Eragon, swinging his sword and such, how he could feel the swords slash barely miss his face. etc. Then i left, came back 5 minutes later and he was waking up... Then i asked him How did you sleep? Did you have a dream? And he responded with a yes, how did you know? so i asked him to describe it to me, and well from what he remembered, he was fighting etc...

I know he was sleeping, because of the way his eyes are when he sleeps, he sleeps with them just slightly open, and he snores... thus the reason why i knew he was asleep.

So an experiment you could try, is to watch Avatar before you go to bed, and have a CD player or sound go off about an hour or two before you wake up.

Meuia te Stxeli Tstew'itan

This sound very interesting and I'll definitely try it.

For those trying to remember your dream. It is easier if you wake up naturally and not through external stimulus like an alarm-clock. If you're like me and still need that alarm not to oversleep and get late at work, take a look at this which might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actigraphy . There's two links at the bottom of the page which give example real life implementation of actigraphy into alarm-clocks.


While reading your first link I stumbled upon a part where it talk about collective dreaming. I found it very interesting, specially in the context of the "Pandora Project" and immediately think about something called delta wave induction (aka BrainSync). This could make this kind of experience much more than just a dream.

The concept behind DWI is that while we're dreaming, our brains emit specifics "radio" wave at around 1-4 Hz which are called delta waves. They are directly related to what is happening in your brain and is basically an imprint of what you're thinking about/dreaming. I know that this sound like science fiction but there actually is many studies about those. Nobody can interpret them yet and that's what make them so interesting.

The idea is that using specific sounds we can induce certain patterns into the brain of a dreaming person. Right now, those are only mathematic patterns which can't (are very improbable of) occurring naturally. They are used to prove that induction is possible.

It made me wonder what would happen if two people capable of lucid dreaming could be "synced" together... Based on the research there is, they is a possibility that synced people would share the dream but this is just an hypothesis. Imagine if those would be able to manipulate this dream. Anyway, that's just a crazy idea that flown through my mind and for now is nothing more than science fiction ;)
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Eanikran

oh man, oe gotta give this a shot.
Bet there's nothing like soaring through the hallelujah mountains on your Ikran  :)


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Quote from: Na'ringa Taronyu on January 10, 2010, 09:13:22 PM
oh man, oe gotta give this a shot.
Bet there's nothing like soaring through the hallelujah mountains on your Ikran  :)

No, there probably isn't.

bagget00

I think I shall try. I will update on whether i succed or not.
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Txontaw

I've only had a lucid dream once, and it was very short, since I told myself to jump off a cliff. :P

It's very strange to dream in third person after realizing you're dreaming.
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'Awve Tìkameie

Note: I will be using MANY comparisons in the following post. In this post, I will tell you about dream research, my history, then some questions. In that order.


Kaltxì,

Current Dream Research:
     According to many resources, you dream every night. When you think about it, one of the 'largest" theories is that you dream of your thoughts/feelings. And before you fall asleep you always think and feel (emotion). So, why don't you "see" the dream? This is still being studied, but for some reason your mind doesn't transmit the thought of the dream to the area of the brain that creates a visual thought. Rarely, for most people, this occurs. I don't know how to "fix" this. Maybe if you try to search the web you can find it, though. My best advice is to try the methods in this post. I know I will. (I believe that your first step into lucid dreaming is to try and remember the dreams more. Once again I don't know the cure).
      I've thought of this before from the very few dreams I can remember. One dream that I had when I was young lasted for a mere 8 minutes (almost-exact estimation). My alarm then woke me up. In 2008 I had a dream that lasted for almost 6 hours. I now lead up to this, from the time you fall asleep, you dream. You usually have more than one dream per night, usually you only remember one. So, another step before you try to have a lucid dream is to elongate your dream to very few each night (search online). You will dream about things that you care about most. If you can easily remember your dreams, then you will l
build a better knowlage of the world you encounter. Since you remember it more vividly, you will think about it, which will lead to dreaming about it again.
    Lastly, if you want to dream about a specific thing for the first time. Spend time thinking about it, creating a world, characters, fauna, flora, like creating a book (for a fictional dream you fanasize about). Also, in most cases (like Avatar's), there are books. Building your knowlage on the world you want to create is a huge step in lucid dreaming.
     The rest of the steps can be found online.
My history:
     I sadly remember VERY FEW dreams which baffles me. I usually remember a dream every 6 months. I don't know why, but this is very true for me. I am currently searching the web for a way to remember my dream more often, but I've had no luck, sadly.
My Questions:
     If you have a method or link that helps people remember dreams, it would be helpful
Irayo
My uncle's dog came over a little less than one week ago. I stupidly left the computer plug on the floor. That night, his dog chewed it up. So, the next morning, I go looking for the plug and I find a chewed up piece of metal. I sadly cannot purchase a new plug right now, and my computer's battery is out. I'm at my public library.

Also, I discovered this promising "small business" film company called Mirror Entertainment. It looks really promising: http://www.mirrorente