I'm so sick of the "real world"

[Txontaw]

Yeah, I think they should have survival classes in highschool and college. It'd serve everyone good. Then eventually maybe Green Anarchism will set in, then the government's against us, and then you know what happens from there.

I know, seriously. Basic survival skills should be a requirement.

[Eywayä lì'u]

Bootcamp basics... Wilderness
1. Map & Compace
2. Food/Water(3daysworth)
3. toothbrush, toothpaste
4. SOCKS!
5. Shortwave transmission radio/reciver.
6. Bow & Arrows, or conventional weapons
7. K-Bar CQC Knife, or eqivalent
8. BE ALERT, AWARE OF SURROUNDINGS
10. AVOID ALL CONTACT WITH PPL YOU DON'T KNOW
IF in hostile environment, Rules of Engagement... NONE!
ESCAPE.
EVADE.
SURVIVE.
RESCUE.
  If you travel light, The average person can march/walk 20-30miles a day. You'd be surprised how efficient your body/mind copes when it knows its being hunted. Stay positive. Many ppl get into depression, you NEED to not lose hope. If you lose hope. You die. Believe me, I've seen it.

hang on a second, isn't that from the zombie survival guide?

and fnua, I kinda worded it wrong, by shallow I meant that it really wasn't the most emphatic statement, it was basically "this thing bad, this thing good", kinda...

[Niwantaw]

*checks through zombie survival guide*

nope it isn't in the holy book

[Txur Niftxavang]

No. What is a Zombie Survival Guide?
I created the list off the top of my head, please if I go into a Really Detailed/ EVERYTHING OF SURVIVAL/ SITUATION, I would be here for days...

[Eywayä lì'u]

It just seemed a lot like the list made in the guide for travelling, the zombie survival guide is a survival guide written by Max Brooks to help people survive in the multiple levels of zombie outbreak, it's pretty cool check it out.

Back on topic!

[Dani]

Say you manage to get your tribe to work out and everything within your group is just fine, all the 'communism as it should have been' tribal system is working and there is noone in your tribe who would prefer to keep whatever 'something' for him-/herself.
Of course, the world outside would just go on with corruption etc. and well... this world outside could just destroy all your efforts and dreams, you know? I mean, they would still go on to destroy the environment where they are. They'd still go on polluting the sea and every sort of water and the air and they'd still cut down lots of wood and rainforest and still fish fishes until they are extinct...
You cannot belief all of this would NOT influence your life anymore. Because it simply WILL sooner or later influence your life, wherever you go to build your Na'vi tribe.

and nuclear weapons... I hope they'll never be used (in large scale). It will truely extinct mankind, but it will also influence nature due to radiation. Animals would have to fight for their survival just the same as mankind. They'd have (supposing there were beings to survive) deformed offspring and more illnesses.
btw. the contamination in Austria is not completely gone 20 years after the accident at Tschernobyl.

About 150.000 square kilometers (about 57.915 square miles) in Belarus, Russia und Ukraine have been contaminated. It contaminated most of the northern hemisphere, among others regions in Lapland, Finland, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Bavaria, the west of England and the south of Turkey. (And that was only the scope of one block, the fourth, of the reactor.) got my knowledge for this last paragraph from here, (however, it's German)

[Ikranä mokri]

most of you know that I think this topic is wrong and pointless

but I challenge you to look on this site and say that the world is a hateful place

this brought me to tears for the first time in over a year

[Fnua Atxkxe]

Just to let you know the url is wrong ^_^ It's true though, some of the stories here are very inspiring ^^ For anyone who wasts it, here is the correct url

['Itan Atxur]

Wait... please explain how this topic is "wrong".

[Fnua Atxkxe]

From what I have heard from Ikranä before it's that we don't hate the world, we hate modern society as most of us love the world we live in and care a great deal for it, it's just the stigma's of modern society we don't like ^_^

[Eywayä lì'u]

I was reading that website, and it truly brought me to tears too. Those are some amazing people, I hope I can be like that.

[Txantslusam Skxawng]

Ma Skxwang, your not the only one. I hope you find an outlet, like I did. My outlet I go running on the beach on weekends. It makes me feel free.

ATM, I'm having less of a S.S.D.D. feeling. I doing more outlets then normal, I also go swimming, but I get tired pretty fast, after 5000 or 10000 meters / 5 or 10 km, I'm not sure I really think it was 10000 meters in one go, my arms felt tired, but I still could go on, but I thought I better stopped and rest, because I hadn't swim like that in 3 years, I went to the pool a couple of times, but I mostly was laying in the sun.

[Tompa'Ivong]

yes, lets see, i ride a bicycle everywhere, no need for fossil fuels.  My carbon footprint is low due to that aspect.  And I'm also quite strong from doing this constantly, easily able to cover 30 miles on foot, on a bike its much further.  There are soo many toxic things in society nowadays, given one example, Flouride in our water/toothpaste, whatnot, in reality if you wanna take care of your teeth reach no further than sugarless gum and clove oil or sea salt.  So many people have been effectively 'dumbed' down by all these toxic chemicals, also to name MSG and Aspartame.  I prepare alot of my food from scratch when I cook, my diet is naturally low in sodium, which actually causes ill effects to me cause of one of the meds im on, i have to supplement it, usually with sunflower seeds.  One of the other things is: Stay Alert, Stay Alive.  All I know is if something happens I am much more prepared and adapting will not be an issue for me.

[Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu]

Does anybody else find it ironic how FAKE the real world is? I simply can't deal with all the trash and corruption that shows it's head at every level. This tribe seriously needs to work or I actually am gonna lose my mind and not like in the "all my friends think I'm crazy" topic. Why the hell was I born during this time period? Why couldn't I be born back before it was to late? People talk about this point of no return when humanity will reach a point where it'll destroy itself. Well you know what? I'm pretty sure we passed it WELL before I was born.

I can't tell you guys how much I hate myself for not being here and contributing every day.

I know how you feel. I haven't been on recently and I don't have time to read through everyone's posts. I will say that I know what that feels like. Most of us here are sick of the real world and a few probably have been since before Avatar (myself included). You just have to do what you can to help our dying world until it is time for us to leave this place. If you join the Tribe, you will leave behind this life and start a new one. That doesn't you get to screw up this life. It means that you have to make sure that everyone involved in your life aren't let down when you leave. You want everyone to be happy for you not because you are leaving, but because you found something that makes you happy! You don't want them to be happy because they want you to leave. Like some people I know (not going to throw any names out...mom). Until then, just listen to some motivational music, be helpful, and enjoy what you have while you have it! Even if you don't join the Tribe, you won't live forever.

[Eywayä lì'u]

Does anybody else find it ironic how FAKE the real world is? I simply can't deal with all the trash and corruption that shows it's head at every level. This tribe seriously needs to work or I actually am gonna lose my mind and not like in the "all my friends think I'm crazy" topic. Why the hell was I born during this time period? Why couldn't I be born back before it was to late? People talk about this point of no return when humanity will reach a point where it'll destroy itself. Well you know what? I'm pretty sure we passed it WELL before I was born.

I can't tell you guys how much I hate myself for not being here and contributing every day.

I know how you feel. I haven't been on recently and I don't have time to read through everyone's posts. I will say that I know what that feels like. Most of us here are sick of the real world and a few probably have been since before Avatar (myself included). You just have to do what you can to help our dying world until it is time for us to leave this place. If you join the Tribe, you will leave behind this life and start a new one. That doesn't you get to screw up this life. It means that you have to make sure that everyone involved in your life aren't let down when you leave. You want everyone to be happy for you not because you are leaving, but because you found something that makes you happy! You don't want them to be happy because they want you to leave. Like some people I know (not going to throw any names out...mom). Until then, just listen to some motivational music, be helpful, and enjoy what you have while you have it! Even if you don't join the Tribe, you won't live forever.

Wow, very well put! Karma for that!

[Kyle Kepone]

Hey man, I know how you feel. I'm not part of the tribe, but I agree on a lot of the points you all bring up, and I think it's becoming clear to a lot of people - and not just those of us on the forums - that the world isn't as peachy-keen as our eighth grade history classes taught us. Ma 'Itan: check out http://www.crimethinc.com. You may not agree with all of the politics there, but they have some decent resources dealing with organization, like a consensus democracy model that could be useful for the real life tribe.

All I know is, I go about my business every day trying to live better: whether that be recycling, picking up trash in various lots in my town, or "liberating" perfectly good food from the dumpsters of major supermarket chains (the last one not so much now that it's summer). But I feel like I'm the only one within a thousand miles that actually gives a crap.

It sucks. I want it to change, and pretty soon something's gotta give.

['Itan Atxur]

Lol. Irayo nìwot aynga (I probably did that totally wrong). And yeah, working at a supermaket, I get to "liberate" a lot of that food before it hits the dumpster.

[Kyle Kepone]

Haha nice!

You know what I'm talking about then. The fresh fruits that get thrown out wholesale because one is a little moldy, things of that nature. It's terribly wasteful, especially considering there is supposed to be a food shortage on the other side of the world.

Edit: Also, a word of caution. If you guys pull through with this, you do run the risk of being labelled many things - like "anarchist-primitivist," "terrorist" or a cult - and dealt with accordingly. As long as you don't cause too much of a ruckus you should be fine. But better safe than sorry.

[bommel]

There's much I knew before watching Avatar but I didn't really care about. Somehow this movie has opened my eyes in a way I can hardly describe. Sometimes I wonder if it's worth the effort trying to save the human race. We're fighting wars for oil, destroy the environment, and for most people number one goal in live is money.

One of my trigger events for this kinda misanthropic point of view was the financial crisis. Trading things that most people can't understand and even those who invented them were unable to see their potential threat to our economy. A friend of mine, who is very interested in all that financial stuff, tried to explain me things like CDOs and the only thing I could think of was: "How the hell can they trade with such things? It's somewhat like playing with nuclear device!". Then, as those device fulfilled their destiny and it made *bang*, I wondered why those guys who had brought all this to us did receive so much money for bringing the economy near the abyss. And why the tax payers had to pay that bill. I wasn't a big fan of those "masters of the universe" before but this situation didn't improve my view on them. I could write some more hate-stories on financial systems but this must be sufficient for now.

Now we're not only good at crashing our economy, we're also good at polluting the environment. And hell yes, we're really good at it. Mother Nature needed billions of years to develop all this here and we destroy it in perhaps 200 to 300 years. That are some numbers to think about! But there's a big problem: Despite the collapse of the financial system this can't be undone with money. The leaking oil from the sunken oil rig won't stop by paying it. Extincted species won't raise from the dead for money (though there's the option of genetical engineering, but I'm no friend of that too).

Somehow Avatar made me a bit more aware of that. But also that probably there is no great chance of change. As long as we have rich and poor, as long as we don't respect nature, as long as we don't regard every human beeing as equal to ourselves, as long as we're dependant on technology, as long as we focus on money.

I've got to admit that I'm part of this world. I buy products produced by companies who are (more or less) responsible for black rivers in Asia, burning electronic garbage dumps in Africa, exploitation of employees. I work as a software developer to earn money, and I'm dependant on technology: I need contact lenses, got computers, TV, mobile phones (actually except of contact lenses I don't need all that stuff to survive but you need it in our society).

Somehow, a part of me likes the idea of living as a Na'vi tribe in real life to escape all that insanity here. The other part is bound to this world here and at the moment, this is the stronger part. For now, I've got to finish my studies but after that the situation might change, who knows...

It was quite difficult for me to write this here because English isn't my mother tongue and in this case I would even have trouble expressing myself in German (also please excuse any language mistakes I've made). Perhaps this text may sound in some way naive and I focus a lot on the bad things. But it's close to my way of thinking about us. And I want to make clear that I am no eco-terrorist or anything like that. I'm not that type of guy who throws the first stone. I'm aware of the problems but somehow I live with the situation as most other people do. Just my 2 cents on the topic...

['Itan Atxur]

Wow. If you didn't say you were German, I never would have known. Your grammer is spot on.

And yeah, your post sums up my pov perfectly. I knew all this pre Avatar, but watching Avatar hit a nerve.