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Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

I am glad to see everyone getting along.  ;D Meditation is a good exercise to practice. Through it you can rid yourself of negative emotions. "Think before you speak." This is a good suggestion. "Think before you act" is another. Actions do speak louder than words, but only when we can see them. Word to the wise: when you do think, don't think too long.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

Col Quaritch

Totaly for got about this book I have would like to suggest it, can get it at most Christian supply stores or amazon.com (they have everything it seems)

Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters by Dick Staub heres the amazon link to it.

http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Wisdom-Jedi-Masters-Staub/dp/0787978949

I recomend it myself but thats just me found it very informative and what I beleive would be a great addition to any one following the "Jedi" way. Unlike most christians I dont see it as a pagan concept but then again Im that odd ball christian I'm glad I stand out from the crowd hate being normal :P


Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

#82
Irayo for the link.

As a Jedi, I would say that that book is informative about that person's perspective. As myself, I say that that book is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. There is no "Lord of the Force." No one controls the Force. The quote by Yoda (always two...) used to describe disciples? Did "Jesus" have one disciple? I don't think so! Was "Jesus" a Sith lord? I don't think so! I couldn't finish the reviews, they were so horrible (to me). I am not saying that it is bad. I am saying that this person took it the wrong way (sort of). There are some parallels between Jedi and Christians, but it isn't THAT parallel. I haven't read the book, so I wouldn't know as well as those who have. The concept is interesting and I would very much like to read this book. It might change the way I see it, but I sincerely doubt it. That isn't a very Jedi-ly thing to say, I know. This "Staub" person is trying to convert people the "Christian Jedi" faith. We Jedi do not try to convert people. We know we can't. They have to on their own. Oh and another thing, it isn't mythology if we're living it. Maybe I am the one taking it the wrong way! Who knows!?! It says that he picks and chooses different aspects of Jedi wisdom (along with other religions) and compares them to Christianity. Bad idea. It says that his generation hadn't produced its own Yoda yet and that he is filling in the position. Very bad idea! "Yoda" isn't a position! Jedi Master is! But it isn't one you can apply for or just say, "I am a Jedi Master. I will teach the younglings." If you want to follow the Jedi (no quotation marks) Way, do it. If you want to follow the Christian/"Jedi" way, read that book. Go for it. I do want to read it, but I probably won't hybridize my religion with something I have SO much experience with and don't exactly like very much.

Irayo for the link.

P.S.: using a quote ABOUT the SITH to compare the JEDI to a religion I left, doesn't make me want to read this book very much. I am not trying to upset anyone in any way. I f I have then I am sorry and I apologize for my rude behavior. I especially mean no offense to you, Col Quaritch, or to anyone else who likes this book. This is just my take on it. Please don't lock this thread. If you must, then you must.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

Txon Taronyu

#83
WOW   :o rant of the century  ;D
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Col Quaritch

Well if you actually read it just using star wars as a reference and the jedi to teach christian princples not teaching jedi as a religion but i'm not offended just something I thought I would offer up here. Now that certian blue kitty who shot me twice she offends me :P


Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

Good, good. For a second I thought I would be in trouble. I do want to read it, though.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

The old Uriuujìn

Quote from: Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu on March 17, 2010, 06:49:13 PM
I am not trying to upset anyone in any way. I f I have then I am sorry and I apologize for my rude behavior. I especially mean no offense to you, Col Quaritch, or to anyone else who likes this book. This is just my take on it. Please don't lock this thread. If you must, then you must.

I want to make it clear that I will not lock a thread because of a post that contains something like this in it. You were obviously stating that you did not mean to offend, and took precautions to use as little blunt or mean language as possible. You sincerely didn't want to insult anyone, and said so, so that is a good post ^_^ Sincerely caring about the other party's feelings is important- if it happened more in Real Life, there's be fewer wars XD

Gaia ayngahu

-Uriuujìn

Ikranä mokri

#87
Quoteif it happened more in Real Life, there's be fewer wars XD
its human nature to have war. as soon as somefound out about using a stick t hit things with he used to beat his neighbours just because they had a rock he wanted.

we exactyl like apes! ( no offense but its true) we like violence and our closest relative the potaoto.....did i say potato i meant cow urhhhhh chimp, thats the one XD, they also love violence and it has been proven  

EDIT : i just watched star wars (im scum i know, but i had a free day and its the only film on my laptop atm) and i was wondering within Jedism is there a dark side??
it was when teh Emperor said that you must undersand all aspects of the force to be a great leader that it got me thinking





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Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

There isn't a dark side of "Jediism," but there is to the Force. If you want there to be.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

Ikranä mokri

so there is a sith ?? or do you believe that if you abuse power you have gone over to the dark side?





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Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

If you abuse your power then you are following the path of the Dark Side. The term "Sith" applies to someone eviller (for lack of a better word) than a Dark Jedi, or a Jedi who abuses their power.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

Ikranä mokri

oh ok that explains it

another question if you believe in another religion (say Gaia) could you also be jedi or is that not possible because this is seeming like quite a gd thing atm





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Tsamsiyu Atsteu

#92
The Force has nothing to do with any deity. It is life force energy, chi, or Ki or whatever you wish to call it.

I would strongly encourage everyone to get or at least read The Dharma of Star Wars, which compares and contrasts Buddhism and the Jedi. There are many similarities and much to learn. It helped me to further my practice as both a Jedi and a Buddhist.

Also the idea that the Force is 'Christian' confuses and upsets me. It is not God nor does it have anything to do with any religion at all. I'm getting a little bit uncomfortable with all the Christian stuff being posted in here, as a Pagan myself, I feel outnumbered and slightly not welcome, personally. I know no one means it that way, of course, but I am uncomfortable right now about where this thread is going. The Force is not a religion. It is energy. Also the term "pagan" is misleading, as it comes from the latin word paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic".

Quote from: Ikranä mokri on March 18, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
oh ok that explains it

another question if you believe in another religion (say Gaia) could you also be jedi or is that not possible because this is seeming like quite a gd thing atm
To live in the past is to die in the present.

Tsäroltxe te Eyrutì Tantse'itan

Actually the "Sith" are a species who lived on Korriban.  The First Jedi to leave the order found them and became their lords, thereby becoming "Sith Lords" and were treated as gods.

lol


Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

Then after the Sith race became extinct, those Dark Jedi became known forever after as the Sith.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

Tsäroltxe te Eyrutì Tantse'itan



Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu

The Force itself doesn't actually have a "light" or "dark" side. It is only what you perceive as being "good" or "bad." Bad people do those things because they believe they are the right thing to do. They think that the people we think of as "good" are "bad." They see the opposite of what we see. To them, the Sith, they were/are "good" and the Jedi are "bad."
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

Tsamsiyu Atsteu

#97
Precisely. Well said, ma tsmukan. As my favorite Jedi once said, "feel don't think. your focus determines your reality" Your intent determines what you use the Force for. A Sith can still do good and a Jedi can still do evil with the Force. Intent is a very important thing.

Quote from: Tsawla Eltu Tsamsiyu on March 18, 2010, 09:30:57 PM
The Force itself doesn't actually have a "light" or "dark" side. It is only what you perceive as being "good" or "bad." Bad people do those things because they believe they are the right thing to do. They think that the people we think of as "good" are "bad." They see the opposite of what we see. To them, the Sith, they were/are "good" and the Jedi are "bad."
To live in the past is to die in the present.

Ikranä mokri

Quote from: Tsamsiyu Atsteu on March 18, 2010, 03:53:37 PM
The Force has nothing to do with any deity. It is life force energy, chi, or Ki or whatever you wish to call it.

I would strongly encourage everyone to get or at least read The Dharma of Star Wars, which compares and contrasts Buddhism and the Jedi. There are many similarities and much to learn. It helped me to further my practice as both a Jedi and a Buddhist.

Also the idea that the Force is 'Christian' confuses and upsets me. It is not God nor does it have anything to do with any religion at all. I'm getting a little bit uncomfortable with all the Christian stuff being posted in here, as a Pagan myself, I feel outnumbered and slightly not welcome, personally. I know no one means it that way, of course, but I am uncomfortable right now about where this thread is going. The Force is not a religion. It is energy. Also the term "pagan" is misleading, as it comes from the latin word paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic".

Quote from: Ikranä mokri on March 18, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
oh ok that explains it

another question if you believe in another religion (say Gaia) could you also be jedi or is that not possible because this is seeming like quite a gd thing atm

look here you have twisted my words and totally misinterpreted me. I never, ever, said that the force was a deity, I asked if its teachings could be followed whilst also following a religion like Gaia.

and trust me i understand the term pagan as my mum is a sybologist, i know way too much about unchristian things with Christianity.

and Gaia is paganism ( in a sense of the word) as you believe in the earth and not a seperate deity.





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The old Uriuujìn

Quote from: Ikranä mokri on March 19, 2010, 03:37:11 AM
...and Gaia is paganism ( in a sense of the word) as you believe in the earth and not a seperate deity.

Not sure what you mean here, but I believe Gaia, Our Earth Mother, Terra, Whichever you want to call her, is an actual deity ^_^; Not sure if that was what you meant or not. Point is, not every person views the same religion in the same light.

Gaia ayngahu

-Uriuujìn