Unpopular View

[tsamna]

Don't get me wrong I love the idea of the tribe. It would be really awesome if it worked and I would be one of the first there. However, I don't think its going to work out. You could actually do it but its an extremely long shot. Think of how much harder life would be. Yes it would have its benefits but everything would be a lot more difficult. I'm sorry for the negativity and I don't want to offend anybody but I think we should be grateful we live with the modern conveniences we have.

[Tsyal Maktoyu]

Knowledge, ma tsmukan, it all comes down to knowledge.

Well of course living in the wild is more difficult than living in the modern world, but to make it fulfilling, you need to have the right knowledge. Knowledge is everything when it comes to living in the wild; it is what separates simply surviving "Cast Away" style, and truly thriving. Though unfortunately most of the modern world is turning to the wrong sources of knowledge, and are falling for the idea that living in the wild is too difficult. Most of what people see in terms of living in the wild come from sensational survivalists like Ray Mears, Bear Grills, and Les Stroud (and others), and they are NOT the right source of knowledge.

If you want to get truly the right knowledge, you need to go to the indigenous people of the world. They are the ones who truly know how to live a fulfilling life while living off the land. They are truly the most Na'vi-like people on Earth, not some city-slicker bushman from the modern world who fakes his way through living off the land to sell books or make TV shows. These guys only propagate the idea that humanity is separate from nature, and that to live in nature is a constant struggle. These people are part of the problem.  Indigenous people, on the other hand, live through the idea that humanity is an integral part of the natural world, and will teach you how to live a harmonious, fulfilling life in nature.

[Key'ìl Nekxetse]

I'm not sure I agree totally with what either of you have said. I think it WILL be hard, sometimes (think about it, there are gonna be times when people are cold and wet, there always are in life), but there WILL be BOTH good times and bad times.
The way to make things easier is to have as much knowledge as possible (as Tsyal Maktoyu already pointed out), as this will make resources easier to find and make.
I don't think you should discount the people you mentioned so quickly. I've seen some of Ray Mears' series on television, and I think he knows a huge amount about his area. At no point in that series did he make it seem harder to live outdoors than is (by my standards) reasonable.

For things like this, there's the proverb "where there's a will, there's a way," and I hope we have several determined people.
On the subject of modern technology, we're trying to go without it because, with it, people are destroying the planet.

Eywa ayngahu.

[Predict]

We all know it's going to be exceedingly difficult but most worthwhile things are. No one here is planning to enter into this unprepared. As 'modern conveniences' are facilitating this we can't afford to be ungrateful and the tribe is in no way opposed to technology, don't see it that way. It lies far more in the application of technology, for example we have plans to use electricity in the eco-village but it will be derived from renewable sources. And no one is opposed to medicines, although we will aim to produce as many as possible ourselves no one is going to refuse modern treatment if necessary.

I have to agree with Key'il about Ray Mears, he knows his stuff (as far as I can tell at least) and presents decent factual programs for entertainment. He does present a different lifestyle I will admit, the limitation is his focus on purely survival as opposed to culture, his shows focus on the struggle because it's better television. At least he is showing people these cultures, even if all he takes from them is a few survival tips there's a sense of respect.

[Tuteyä amuiä 'itan]

i just seen something on tv about les stroud actually spending time and living with the indigenous http://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-news/survivorman-goes-beyond-survival-as-les-stroud-see/

['Itan Atxur]

TC, we've been working on this idea for many months now and ALL view points are welcome, including negative ones. But please back up you're opinion a bit more. Simply stating you don't think the idea will work isn't constructive which is what we're looking for. Search for the "devils advocate" topic to see the ultimate constructive negative post.

None the less, your opinion and ideas are welcome, and thanks for posting.