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Re: Animal names
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2011, 04:32:43 pm »
It seems logical to me but I don't know almost anything about Na'vi but I have to say that that is so sweet!<3
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Re: Animal names
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 06:19:10 pm »
It seems logical to me but I don't know almost anything about Na'vi but I have to say that that is so sweet!<3
i dont know what im doing either, but i thought the best way to learn is to jump in XD

It is indeed! ;D Great attitude. (:

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Re: Animal names
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 06:51:24 pm »
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Yayo for bird..

This is such a great animal. The greatest. I don't know why but the word has as much win as the animal.


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Re: Animal names
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 03:48:15 pm »
Yayo was certainly easy to remember. There are hardly any other words in the language like it.

For me, the animal parts of the Pandoran world/culture are of particular interest because I have a deep interest in animals. And although I really am not into 'spirit guides', I know beyond any doubt that animals do have spirits, and I have 'experienced' them on many occasions.

Now, on to more practical things.

We have 38 species of felines here on `Rrta. More, if you count some of the hybrids. In any case, these felines can weigh anywhere from 1.8 to 410 kg. None of these cats is even close to a thanator in size (And a thanator is not an obligate carnivore, like cats). Eventually, someday, I hope there is a Na`vi name for each, but much other vocabularic ground needs to be covered first. But at the moment, if using derivations of palulukan to describe `Rrta  felines, where you draw the line between palulkan and palulukantsyìp? And would palulukantsyìptsyìp (which I like!) even be something valid? And if it is, where would the dividing lines then fall?

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Re: Animal names
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 07:24:05 pm »
We have 38 species of felines here on `Rrta. More, if you count some of the hybrids. In any case, these felines can weigh anywhere from 1.8 to 410 kg. None of these cats is even close to a thanator in size (And a thanator is not an obligate carnivore, like cats). Eventually, someday, I hope there is a Na`vi name for each, but much other vocabularic ground needs to be covered first. But at the moment, if using derivations of palulukan to describe `Rrta  felines, where you draw the line between palulkan and palulukantsyìp? And would palulukantsyìptsyìp (which I like!) even be something valid? And if it is, where would the dividing lines then fall?

I think Sxkxawng was using the tsyìp convention (well, not an official convention) less to indicate the size of the animal, and more to indicate that oh, here's a little Earth version of this Pandoran creature.  I think in general, Earth animals just tend to be smaller than their Pandoran counterparts.  (I don't know if that made sense.)

Therefore, maybe even if a feline was as large as a palulukan, it would still be a palulukantsyìp.  (Looking at your name, I can see why this topic is of interest to you!)

Anyway, this isn't an offical usage, so we can use it how we like for now.

In addition, I like the ioang 'Rrtayä phrasing for when a Pandoran animal has a definite Earth counterpart.  So perhaps, palulukan 'Rrtayä.
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Re: Animal names
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 10:37:55 pm »

I think Sxkxawng was using the tsyìp convention (well, not an official convention) less to indicate the size of the animal, and more to indicate that oh, here's a little Earth version of this Pandoran creature.  I think in general, Earth animals just tend to be smaller than their Pandoran counterparts.  (I don't know if that made sense.)

The use of -tsyìp is actually a well-established 'de facto' convention to describe something that is small or diminutive. Because `Rrta animals are generally smaller the -tsyìp construction is pretty widely used. It has nothing to do with the fact that the `Rrta animal being so described is in fact from `Rrta.

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Therefore, maybe even if a feline was as large as a palulukan, it would still be a palulukantsyìp.  (Looking at your name, I can see why this topic is of interest to you!)

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Look at the picture as well. That lion is my neighbor and best friend! But you would not have to call it a palulukantsyìp just because it is `Rrta animal. I called it a palulukan in my avatar description.

Anyway, this isn't an offical usage, so we can use it how we like for now.

In addition, I like the ioang 'Rrtayä phrasing for when a Pandoran animal has a definite Earth counterpart.  So perhaps, palulukan 'Rrtayä.

That is an interesting idea to think about. Maybe better palulukan a'Rrta, as the 'thanator' does not 'belong' to the earth.

In any case, If one accepts palulukantsyìptsyìp as a legitimate description, then I think you could call lions, tigers and ligers as falulukan, the various leopards, jaguars, cheetahs, and cougars as falulukantsyìp, and all of the small cats (including felis catus) as falulukantsyìptsyìp  ;D
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Re: Animal names
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2011, 10:45:36 pm »
I meant that -tsyìp isn't officially a convention for naming Earth mammals.  Oops on my part. :P

Also, I would be overjoyed were palulukantsyìptsyìp to become a recognized usage.  I think it would make sense to differentiate the larger and smaller felines this way, especially since they are so different to us, meaning I'm not bringing that leopard into my house.

Also also, I think -(y)ä can simply mean "of," not necessarily implying possession.  However, this would still mean that palulukan 'Rrtayä is kind of an oxymoron, which is what I think you were getting at.  But then again, aren't a lot of figurative usages?
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Re: Animal names
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2011, 03:06:49 pm »
Also also, I think -(y)ä can simply mean "of," not necessarily implying possession.  However, this would still mean that palulukan 'Rrtayä is kind of an oxymoron, which is what I think you were getting at.  But then again, aren't a lot of figurative usages?

Idioms certainly make life more interesting  ;D

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Re: Animal names
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2011, 10:01:09 pm »
... and palulukantsyìp? And would palulukantsyìptsyìp (which I like!) even be something valid?

Probably only about as valid as something like sunu oeru liveieiu, with a double <ei> ::)

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