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Ryceve Vrrtep'itan

kaltxì ma oeyä eylan

I'd like to know something which is killing me

in Na'vi they usually say ma smuk or ma smukan smukesì?

a friend of mine and me have been discussing for months now!

tnx a lot for any help

Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

they are both the same except in my opinion smukan smukesì is more formal (which is the opposite of English).
Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu

Ryceve Vrrtep'itan

Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on April 05, 2011, 07:42:53 AM
they are both the same except in my opinion smukan smukesì is more formal (which is the opposite of English).

maybe you're right

but actually I couldn't find that form in the movie script nor in Frommer's posts

I always found the two specific forms :(

Ryceve Vrrtep'itan

Quote from: Ikranari on April 05, 2011, 09:27:42 AM
Quote from: ryceve on April 05, 2011, 01:42:53 AM
kxaltì ma oeyä eylan
Don't know if that is a typo or if you diden't now...but it's kaltxì  ;)

ouch, tnx, i just misspelled

eejmensenikbenhet

I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr), but I prefer smukan smukesì myself.

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: eejmensenikbenhet on April 05, 2011, 12:41:02 PM
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr)

It's from Frommer, so it is eyawr ;)
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Ryceve Vrrtep'itan

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on April 06, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: eejmensenikbenhet on April 05, 2011, 12:41:02 PM
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr)

It's from Frommer, so it is eyawr ;)

I know they're all correct, but i'd like to know if it is more common to use the "smuk(tu)" or the "smukan smukesì" form

in colloquial

Ryceve Vrrtep'itan

Quote from: eejmensenikbenhet on April 05, 2011, 12:41:02 PM
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr), but I prefer smukan smukesì myself.

me too, definitely, but i'd like to know from a leNa'vi karyu which one is best in either formal and unformal expressions

Sireayä mokri

In my opinion, smuktu will do in both formal and informal speech, whereas smukan smukesì sounds more formal.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

wm.annis

Quote from: Ryceve Vrrtep'ite on April 07, 2011, 02:48:40 AM
Quote from: eejmensenikbenhet on April 05, 2011, 12:41:02 PM
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr), but I prefer smukan smukesì myself.

me too, definitely, but i'd like to know from a leNa'vi karyu which one is best in either formal and unformal expressions

We have no statements at all from Frommer about register (i.e., formal vs. informal) except for some guidance on the pronouns and the ‹uy› infix.  There's no particular reason to interpret the -sì form as more formal.

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: wm.annis on April 07, 2011, 08:10:40 AM
There's no particular reason to interpret the -sì form as more formal.

I think informal constructions tend to be shorter, thus I'd prefer smuktu in rapid speech.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.