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Brothers and sisters
« on: April 05, 2011, 01:42:53 am »
kaltxì ma oeyä eylan

I'd like to know something which is killing me

in Na'vi they usually say ma smuk or ma smukan smukesì?

a friend of mine and me have been discussing for months now!

tnx a lot for any help
« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 02:47:25 am by ryceve »

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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 07:42:53 am »
they are both the same except in my opinion smukan smukesì is more formal (which is the opposite of English).
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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 09:06:17 am »
they are both the same except in my opinion smukan smukesì is more formal (which is the opposite of English).

maybe you're right

but actually I couldn't find that form in the movie script nor in Frommer's posts

I always found the two specific forms :(

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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 10:06:07 am »
kxaltì ma oeyä eylan
Don't know if that is a typo or if you diden't now...but it's kaltxì  ;)

ouch, tnx, i just misspelled

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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 12:41:02 pm »
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr), but I prefer smukan smukesì myself.

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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 09:07:34 am »
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr)

It's from Frommer, so it is eyawr ;)
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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 02:46:42 am »
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr)

It's from Frommer, so it is eyawr ;)

I know they're all correct, but i'd like to know if it is more common to use the "smuk(tu)" or the "smukan smukesì" form

in colloquial

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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 02:48:40 am »
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr), but I prefer smukan smukesì myself.

me too, definitely, but i'd like to know from a leNa'vi karyu which one is best in either formal and unformal expressions

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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 08:05:27 am »
In my opinion, smuktu will do in both formal and informal speech, whereas smukan smukesì sounds more formal.
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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 08:10:40 am »
I've seen people using smuktu (ke omum ftxey tsa'u lu eyawr), but I prefer smukan smukesì myself.

me too, definitely, but i'd like to know from a leNa'vi karyu which one is best in either formal and unformal expressions

We have no statements at all from Frommer about register (i.e., formal vs. informal) except for some guidance on the pronouns and the ‹uy› infix.  There's no particular reason to interpret the -sì form as more formal.
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Re: Brothers and sisters
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 08:14:08 am »
There's no particular reason to interpret the -sì form as more formal.

I think informal constructions tend to be shorter, thus I'd prefer smuktu in rapid speech.
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