Check some sentences for me srak?

[Kame Ayyo’koti]

See what I did there?

These are some basic, random sentences, mostly to practice vocabulary. I'd like to know if they're correct-mainly the adpositions and other bits, and whether their meaning is clear and makes sense.

Fra-'u ng<äp>op, na ay-ewll.
Attempted meaning: Everything grows (of) itself, like plants (do).
Should I use tengfya instead? To me "as plants do" sounds more like a clause. If so, would this structure be alright anyway? How would the meanings differ?

'awsiteng ay-oe-ng lu txur...
A.m.: Together we are strong...
(From a song I like. )

Oe-l inan tìfkeytok-it.
A.m.: I read the situation.
As in, I read what's happening, what people are saying, how people are acting, in order to understand what's going on.

Oe-l ftia lì'fya-ti leNa'vi puk-fa.
A.m.: I study the Na'vi language with a book.

Fì-'u lu sìltsan frato.
A.m.: This is best.
I wanted to write "This is better," but I couldn't find a way to write "better."

Tse'a kxamlä me-nari leNa'vi.
A.m.: See through Na'vi eyes.
Meant in reference to language: See the world through Na'vi "language-goggles."

Oe-l run (ay-)eylan-it fratseng a oe kä.
A.m.: I discover friends everywhere that I go.
I wasn't sure about this one: Do a clauses work with adverbs?

Also I'd like you to check the sentences in my sig. I'm confident they're right, but I still overlook simple things. (Especially when I'm tired, kea krrrrrrr~, nì'ul'ul kafi. )

[Kemaweyan]

I think everything is correct

[Tìtstewan]

Mllte oe Kemaweyanhu. Karma ngaru, ma Kerame Ayyo'koti!

[Kemaweyan]

Mllte oe Kemaweyanhu. Karma ngaru, ma Kerame Ayyo'koti!

Just fixed a little mistake

[Tìtstewan]

Fixed, No idea why I wrote that... Irayo!

[Kame Ayyo’koti]

Mllte oe Kemaweyanhu. Karma ngaru, ma Kerame Ayyo'koti!

Yaaaaay! Oeyä 'awvea karma!

[Plumps]

Well, I don't want to be the spoilsport Ngari txe'lan mawey livu, txopu rä'ä si, txampxì lu eyawr.* Nì'aw hola säfpìl.*

Fì-'u lu sìltsan frato.
A.m.: This is best.
I wanted to write "This is better," but I couldn't find a way to write "better."

Another possibility would be Fì-'u lu swey.
"good" and "bad, not good" are the only adjectives (so far) that have their own superlative forms, i.e. swey and 'e'al

"better" can be achieved via nì'ul – if you are not comparing things, à la "x is better than y", there you need another grammatical structure (if you are interested, look what you can find about to ). So fì'u lu sìltsan nì'ul, "this is better" (lit.: this is good more)

Tse'a kxamlä me-nari leNa'vi.
A.m.: See through Na'vi eyes.
Meant in reference to language: See the world through Na'vi "language-goggles."

kxamlä has a very local/physical quality to me (lit.: from kxam-ìlä, "via the middle of"). As if you would hold out an eye of a Na'vi and look through it like binoculars That's probably not what you want I'm trying tho think of a way to do this. Probably just tse'a nìNa'vi or tse'a nìfya'o na Na'vi or tse'a tengfya na Na'vi. As you can see, there are many roads to Hometree
The first one is my favorite, though. Short and simple.

Oe-l run (ay-)eylan-it fratseng a oe kä.
A.m.: I discover friends everywhere that I go.
I wasn't sure about this one: Do a clauses work with adverbs?

In this case yes, because tseng(e) here retains its quality of a noun.
What this implies though is that you "go everywhere (around)". If you mean to say "that I go to" you would need to repeat the place. This is done with tsa'u which is often shortened to tsa-, to which the adposition can be attached.
Oe-l run (ay-)eylan-it fratseng a tsa-ne oe kä.
"I find friends everywhere that (to-where) I go."

Hope that helps
Keep it up. That looks already amazing!

[Kame Ayyo’koti]

Another possibility would be Fì-'u lu swey.
"good" and "bad, not good" are the only adjectives (so far) that have their own superlative forms, i.e. swey and 'e'al

"better" can be achieved via nì'ul

Irayo. I'll add those to my vocab list and make note of that.

kxamlä has a very local/physical quality to me (lit.: from kxam-ìlä, "via the middle of"). As if you would hold out an eye of a Na'vi and look through it like binoculars

This is what I meant, actually, lol. I meant it figuratively (is that the right word?); your examples say it more literally: "Tse'a kifkey-ti nì'Na'vi." I guess it would mean seeing (understanding) the world the way the Na'vi do, in general.
I meant it as a way to say, "see the world in Na'vi (language)," so maybe: "Tse'a kifkey-it fa lì'fya leNa'vi." (Or maybe even inan? Srak ayoengal inan kifkeyti fa lì'fya?) Where "tree" becomes utral, "home" turns into kelku, and so on.

In this case yes, because tseng(e) here retains its quality of a noun.
What this implies though is that you "go everywhere (around)". If you mean to say "that I go to" you would need to repeat the place. This is done with tsa'u which is often shortened to tsa-, to which the adposition can be attached.
Oe-l run (ay-)eylan-it fratseng a tsa-ne oe kä.
"I find friends everywhere that (to-where) I go."

I admit this part confuses me. W.S. Annis's Reference Grammar mentions it under 6.18. I guess it makes some sense... I'll have to study his examples more. But thanks for pointing it out.

Onward and onward, little by little...

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

Txantsan! There are some very nice little proverbs there, and ones that can be useful.

Tse'a kxamlä me-nari leNa'vi.
A.m.: See through Na'vi eyes.
Meant in reference to language: See the world through Na'vi "language-goggles."

This I especially like, and it makes perfect sense (to me anyways) as-is.

[Kame Ayyo’koti]

Srak ayoengal inan kifkeyki fa lì'fya?

AaaggGGHHH!! I knew it! Right when I woke up I remembered this post and was pretty sure I wrote that wrong. Sometimes, even coffee isn't enough. 

Irayo ma `Eylan Ayfalulukanä.

[Plumps]

I meant it as a way to say, "see the world in Na'vi (language)," so maybe: "Tse'a kifkey-it fa lì'fya leNa'vi." (Or maybe even inan? Srak ayoengal inan kifkeyti fa lì'fya?)

Seeing that the definition of inan includes "gain knowledge from sensory input", I don't see why it shouldn't apply to the world as a whole as well
Btw, I get confused with the 'new' rules on the ending, but I think -it after ey is no longer allowed; so kifkey-ti or kifkey-t

In this case yes, because tseng(e) here retains its quality of a noun.
What this implies though is that you "go everywhere (around)". If you mean to say "that I go to" you would need to repeat the place. This is done with tsa'u which is often shortened to tsa-, to which the adposition can be attached.
Oe-l run (ay-)eylan-it fratseng a tsa-ne oe kä.
"I find friends everywhere that (to-where) I go."

I admit this part confuses me. W.S. Annis's Reference Grammar mentions it under 6.18. I guess it makes some sense... I'll have to study his examples more. But thanks for pointing it out.

Understandable. Sometimes Na'vi is very precise when it comes to certain meanings. If you have further questions about that during your studies, don't hesitate to ask

Onward and onward, little by little...

Srane, srane, 'ivong nìk'ong

[Kiyevame Ikran]

Karma +1 for you because you helped me figure something out

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

I meant it as a way to say, "see the world in Na'vi (language)," so maybe: "Tse'a kifkey-it fa lì'fya leNa'vi." (Or maybe even inan? Srak ayoengal inan kifkeyti fa lì'fya?)

Seeing that the definition of inan includes "gain knowledge from sensory input", I don't see why it shouldn't apply to the world as a whole as well
Btw, I get confused with the 'new' rules on the ending, but I think -it after ey is no longer allowed; so kifkey-ti or kifkey-t

And I would agree with that interpretation of inan, as the term refers to learning by physical evidence, and really does not specify a scale for doing so.

The 'no -it after -ey' is an easy rule to remember as /ey/ is a recognized dipthong. I believe this would apply to the other three recognized dipthongs as well.

[Tìtstewan]

As for the difthong things:

	-r	-ru	-ur	-t	-ti	-it
ey	-	keyeyru	keyeyur	keyeyt	keyeyti	-
ay	-	wayru	wayur	wayt	wayti	wayit
ew	fahewr	fahewru	-	-	fahewti	fahewit
aw	'etnawr	'etnawru	'etnawur	-	'etnawti	'etnawit

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A NOTE ON CASE ENDINGS WITH DIPHTHONGS

As you know, Na'vi has four diphthongs: aw, ay, ew, ey. If a noun ends in a diphthong,
there are a few things to keep in mind with some of the case endings.

The t-case for objects (also known as the patientive case):

With nouns ending in ey, the -it ending becomes simply t. Example: keyeyt 'errors' (not *keyeyit).
With nouns ending in ay, the –it ending may become t: wayt  or wayit 'song' - both forms are possible.
For the other two diphthongs, the –it ending does not change: fahewit 'smell,' 'etnawit 'shoulder.'

For all four diphthongs, the ti- form is also possible: keyeyti, wayti, fahewti, 'etnawti.

The r-case for indirect objects (also known as the dative case):

With nouns ending in ew, the -ur ending becomes simply r. Example: fahewr 'to/for a smell' (not *fahewur).
With nouns ending in aw, the –ur ending may become r: 'etnawr or 'etnawur 'to/for a shoulder' - both forms are possible.
For the other two diphthongs, the –ur ending does not change: keyeyur 'to/for errors,' wayur 'to/for a song.'

For all four diphthongs, the ru- form is also possible: keyeyru, wayru, fahewru, 'etnawru.

[Blue Elf]

Fra-'u ng<äp>op, na ay-ewll.
Attempted meaning: Everything grows (of) itself, like plants (do).
Should I use tengfya instead? To me "as plants do" sounds more like a clause. If so, would this structure be alright anyway? How would the meanings differ?

My first idea is: Fra'u tsawl slu na ewll. But here is missing "itself" part, as we do not have this word yet. Maybe it changes in short future.

Srake ayoengal inan kifkeyti fa lì'fya?

At the beginning of sentence we use srake, at the end srak, AFAIK. Otherwise - you are very good! Txantsan!

[Tìtstewan]

[...] you are very good! Txantsan!

Mllte oe!

Maybe it changes in short future.

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[Plumps]

Fra-'u ng<äp>op, na ay-ewll.
Attempted meaning: Everything grows (of) itself, like plants (do).
Should I use tengfya instead? To me "as plants do" sounds more like a clause. If so, would this structure be alright anyway? How would the meanings differ?

My first idea is: Fra'u tsawl slu na ewll. But here is missing "itself" part, as we do not have this word yet. Maybe it changes in short future.

There is precedence for this though:

Fra'uä ran ngäpop fa frasyon tseyä.
'The ran of each thing arises from the totality of its attributes.'

Note: Here the reflexive form of ngop 'create'—ngäpop, literally 'creates itself'—is used for this sense of 'arise.' A closer translation would be 'is created.' For the grammar experts, this is an example of an "agentless passive" in English that becomes a reflexive in Na'vi.

[Kame Ayyo’koti]

About the diphthongs, I misread something in Na'vi in a Nutshell, and I assumed either ending could be used. I've read Paul's post now and it is more complicated than that. I'll just use -ru/-ti for now since they're the "safest" (as Tìtstewan's chart shows).

Fra-'u ng<äp>op, na ay-ewll.
Attempted meaning: Everything grows (of) itself, like plants (do).

My first idea is: Fra'u tsawl slu na ewll. But here is missing "itself" part, as we do not have this word yet.

Could you explain the meaning of this? (I'm still learning to use slu.) To me it seems like:
Everything becomes big (grows), like plants.

I don't think this sentence would mean what I was trying to say, even if we added "itself."
Everything itself becomes big, like plants.
To me that means more, "Everything else also grows, like plants."
I suppose it could mean what I meant, but it seems ambiguous in this form. ("Like plants? What do you mean «Everything grows 'like plants'»? Of course plants aren't the only things that grow!")

What I intended my sentence to mean was that nothing outside of it shapes or makes it. For example, a potter makes pots, but nothing "makes" plants: Plants just grow. They "ngäpop."

[Tìtstewan]

About the diphthongs, I misread something in Na'vi in a Nutshell, and I assumed either ending could be used. I've read Paul's post now and it is more complicated than that. I'll just use -ru/-ti for now since they're the "safest" (as Tìtstewan's chart shows).

This is one of many reasons why NiaN will be rewritten.

Fra-'u ng<äp>op, na ay-ewll. Attempted meaning: Everything grows (of) itself, like plants (do). My first idea is: Fra'u tsawl slu na ewll. But here is missing "itself" part, as we do not have this word yet. Could you explain the meaning of this? (I'm still learning to use slu.) To me it seems like: Everything becomes big (grows), like plants.

That sentence means, Everything grows/becomes tall like plants.
See [tsawl slu] as a unit for 'grow' or 'becomes tall'. (I think, in the dictionary it is listed?)
Also translate the meaning, not the words.

[Blue Elf]

Yes, tsawl slu is verb with meaning "to grow", in this case words aren't translated separately (although literally it means "to become big" - what is "to grow" by other words )