defferential forms

Started by kewnya txamew'itan, December 26, 2009, 05:50:09 PM

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kewnya txamew'itan

I understand (I think) when to use ngenga instead of nga (in formal situations when in French you would use Vous and Spanish Usted) but in what situations would you use ohe instead of oe?

If you have a phrase using ngenga should you then use ohe as well or should ohe only be used if talking to an inferior (for example if you were (can't remember the word) chief, like Neytiri's father and as tsute will become)?
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I think it could be used talking to an inferior, yeah maybe, but we aren't so sure though. What we know is that those two are used to mark some kind of respect.
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Quote from: kawng mungeyu on December 26, 2009, 05:50:09 PMIf you have a phrase using ngenga should you then use ohe as well or should ohe only be used if talking to an inferior (for example if you were (can't remember the word) chief, like Neytiri's father and as tsute will become)?

Ooh, I suspect ohe is what one might call a humble form, with oe neutral.  You'd use ohe when talking to someone you use ngenga with.  There are plenty of human languages that do this.  As always, pending further info from Frommer, this is a bit speculative.

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i wouldn't call ohe a humble form because if i was to use it i would probably be used with an insult (I'm so much better than you) so as sarcasm ( because you know i am...). i think it would be used humbly if everyone refers to you as ohe and you refer to yourself as oe
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Quote from: tute nuereime on December 27, 2009, 04:29:18 PM
i wouldn't call ohe a humble form because if i was to use it i would probably be used with an insult (I'm so much better than you) so as sarcasm ( because you know i am...).

Why would you use it that way?  The dictionary in the Activist Survival Guide is quite clear about this:

     ohe I (deferential or ceremonial form)

Insult and sarcasm are not usually considered deferential.

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i haven't seen the Activist Survival Guide so i didn't know. i would use it at the ceremonies like it says but at first glance that would be how i use it in normal conversations.
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