"eat your head"

Started by Herwìna, March 18, 2013, 10:39:50 AM

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Herwìna

Would 'ngal yom ngeyä re'oti ko' be correct...?
Siyevop nga nìzawnong ayukmì, vaykrr oengeyä mefya'o ultxaräpun fìtsap nìmun.

Oe zawng
nga zawng
nìwotx awnga zawng
fte oeti zeykivawng

Ngal yamom fì'ut srak?!

Tìtstewan

You eat your head
Ngal yom ngeyä re'oti

'ko' means like in makto ko 'lets ride'

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Taronyu Leleioae

#2
Tìtstewan beat me to it..



QuoteNgal yom ngeyä re'oti ko.

For "Ngal yom ngeyä re'oti."   I would agree that this means, "You eat your head."  Such as an animal head.  If this was your own personal head, (however impossible), then you need to replace "ngeyä" with Ngari and move this single word to the front of the sentence as topical is used for inalienable possessions such as body parts, etc...

As to the use of "ko", that would infer that you are looking for agreement as a command.  If you really meant a question, I would personally use "kefyak".  However this would suggest asking if it was something in the past or future.  Did you do this..., or will you do this...

Could you describe the meaning of your sentence further?

Tìtstewan

Well, I would write this too, but it seems impossible to eat your own head...

Palulukanìl yom ngeyä re'oti.
A Thanator eats your head.

Ayoengìl yom ko ayfoä re'oti.
Let us (all) eat their head.

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Plumps

Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 18, 2013, 11:12:33 AMAyoengal yom ayfeyä (ay)re'oti ko.
Let us (all) eat their head.

ko, much like nang and srak comes at the end of a sentence.

Tìtstewan


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Herwìna

#6
Well it's actually meant as a kind of a f*** you, like a command to eat your own head... As a sign of annoyed exasperation.
Siyevop nga nìzawnong ayukmì, vaykrr oengeyä mefya'o ultxaräpun fìtsap nìmun.

Oe zawng
nga zawng
nìwotx awnga zawng
fte oeti zeykivawng

Ngal yamom fì'ut srak?!

Tìtstewan

#7
Yom ngeyä re'o ko!
Eat your head!

Do you mean this?

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Herwìna

'Ngeyä re'ori, yom tsat'?
Siyevop nga nìzawnong ayukmì, vaykrr oengeyä mefya'o ultxaräpun fìtsap nìmun.

Oe zawng
nga zawng
nìwotx awnga zawng
fte oeti zeykivawng

Ngal yamom fì'ut srak?!

Tanri

What about "Yom ngeyä re'otsyìpit!" - Eat your little head!
-tsyìp is not only diminutive, but can be used as an insult, depending on context and intonation.
Also the genitive instead of topical tells me that his head isn't a part of the body, but something ready to be disposed off, because it is not good for anything else, especially for thinking.  ;D
Tätxawyu akì'ong.

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Or, since this is a command,

Kä, ngari yom re'ot ngeyä! (For some reason, ngal doesn't feel right here.

Or perhaps,

re'ori ngeyä, kä yom tsa'ut

Yawey ngahu!
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Blue Elf

Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 18, 2013, 01:24:08 PM
Yom ngeyä re'ot(i) ko!
Eat your head!

Do you mean this?

QuoteOr, since this is a command,

Kä, ngari yom re'ot ngeyä! (For some reason, ngal doesn't feel right here.

Or perhaps,

re'ori ngeyä, kä yom tsa'ut
Hmm, not sure what you mean by using "kä"; it sounds like "go to eat your head"
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Herwìna

Alyara Arati suggested "Ngari re'ot yom".
Siyevop nga nìzawnong ayukmì, vaykrr oengeyä mefya'o ultxaräpun fìtsap nìmun.

Oe zawng
nga zawng
nìwotx awnga zawng
fte oeti zeykivawng

Ngal yamom fì'ut srak?!

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Quote from: Blue Elf on March 19, 2013, 01:45:01 AM
Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 18, 2013, 01:24:08 PM
Yom ngeyä re'ot(i) ko!
Eat your head!

Do you mean this?

QuoteOr, since this is a command,

Kä, ngari yom re'ot ngeyä! (For some reason, ngal doesn't feel right here.

Or perhaps,

re'ori ngeyä, kä yom tsa'ut
Hmm, not sure what you mean by using "kä"; it sounds like "go to eat your head"

That's precisely what it is supposed to mean, perhaps with out the 'to'. But it gives the imperative sense to this figure of speech, that is imoortant to its meaning.

Quote from: Herwìna
Alyara Arati suggested "Ngari re'ot yom"

This says, 'concerning you, eat head'. Whose head? (This might be obvious in context.)

Ngari re'ot yom ngeyä

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Alyara Arati

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on March 19, 2013, 02:55:18 PM

Quote from: Herwìna
Alyara Arati suggested "Ngari re'ot yom"

This says, 'concerning you, eat head'. Whose head? (This might be obvious in context.)

Ngari re'ot yom ngeyä

I figured that since
Quotetopical is used for inalienable possessions such as body parts, etc...
it would be obvious that you mean for the person you're telling "eat your head" to do this action.
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Quote from: Alyara Arati on March 19, 2013, 10:40:21 PM
I figured that since
Quotetopical is used for inalienable possessions such as body parts, etc...
it would be obvious that you mean for the person you're telling "eat your head" to do this action.

I keep forgetting about inalienable possession....
Irayo!

Yawey ngahu!
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