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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2011, 02:59:14 pm »
Frommer has said there will be no more infixes, so don't count on it.  However as I pointed out a few posts ago, it is still possible to say without having to come up with new convoluted infixes.  As it is, äpeyk is confusing enough, *eykäp would just make it worse.

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But <eykäp> wouldn't really be a new infix-- just a different use of existing infixes.

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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2011, 03:04:55 pm »
But <eykäp> wouldn't really be a new infix-- just a different use of existing infixes.
Yes, this is infix interweaving.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2011, 03:11:06 pm »
actually the rule says that if both those infixes come together they must be äpeyk. therefore "eykäp" will be sort of a new infix. if we do that we will actually break the first rule and make a new one that says the order is affected by the meaning you want.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2011, 03:28:53 pm »
I'm pretty sure (can't find the quote right now) that Dr. Frommer said there will be neither new infixes nor new combinations of existing infixes.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2011, 03:33:33 pm »
that's too bad because this combination could make things a lot easier.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2011, 04:37:19 pm »
It's not that common a thing to say (But then again neither is äpeyk) and it IS possible to say fairly easily still.  Adding a new combined infix like that would just cause more confusion I suspect.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2011, 02:59:01 am »
perhaps just for beginners but I see no problem here. in <äpeyk> the person is doing something to himself and therefore the "äp" comes first. in *<eykäp> the point is that he causes someone to do something and therefore "eyk" comes first.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2011, 09:54:21 am »
perhaps just for beginners but I see no problem here. in <äpeyk> the person is doing something to himself and therefore the "äp" comes first. in *<eykäp> the point is that he causes someone to do something and therefore "eyk" comes first.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2011, 12:31:18 pm »
Now go back and read how many times in this thread I had to explain what äpeyk means.

Either way, Frommer said no new infixes, so it's not likely to happen.
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2011, 01:10:31 pm »
hey if we're talking about <äpeyk> I have another question.
<äpeyk> means "to cause oneself to do something". but how would one express "to cause oneself to do something to oneself".
for instance: tspäpeykang means "to make yourself kill someone". but how would you say "to make yourself suicide (kill yourself)".
another <äp> is not possible. so what would one do in such a case? does he have to use fkol fkot?
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Re: Because of you.
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2011, 03:16:14 pm »
Rather sno or just oe, nga or po.

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