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Started by Reykoveyzä te Werufalä Haflak'ite, December 06, 2011, 04:44:04 PM

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Reykoveyzä te Werufalä Haflak'ite

Kaltxì, I'm trying to write a fanfic, and in trying to say something like "love is hard to find, so when you do find it, grab it with both hands, or you won't find it again"
The closest I've got is
tìyawn lu ngäzik run si ha krrpe Nga run tìyawn, niä fa meaytsyokx, txokefyaw Nga tsun ke run nìmun.
If anyone has any ideas on this, it'd be greatly appreciated. Irayo ma frapo.
Irayo, ma frapo, ma oeyä smuke sì ma oeyä smukan.
Vivar 'ivong Na'vi! Eywa ayngahu!



*if i make a mistake in any of my Na'vi, please correct me :)

Kemaweyan

If I understand the meaning correctly, it would be like this:

  Lu ngäzìk fwa tìyawnit rivun, ha ngal ralyun tsat a krr, niä tsat fa mesyokx, txokefyaw nga ke tsayun rivun tsat nìmun.
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

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late to say

Fwa tìyawnit run lu ngäzìk ha tsat run ngal a krr, tsat niä fa mesyokx nìwotx txokefyaw ngal tsat kawkrr ke r(ay)un nìmun.

me+...nìwotx is how to say both, right? I swear I saw it in language updates or on the blog but i cant seem to find it

Blue Elf

Quote from: Tirea Aean on December 06, 2011, 05:14:34 PM
late to say

Fwa tìyawnit run lu ngäzìk ha tsat run ngal a krr, tsat niä fa mesyokx nìwotx txokefyaw ngal tsat kawkrr ke r(ay)un nìmun.

me+...nìwotx is how to say both, right? I swear I saw it in language updates or on the blog but i cant seem to find it
Yes, I think me+ ..nìwotx fits here well (just read that update a while ago :))
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Carborundum

Quote from: Tirea Aean on December 06, 2011, 05:14:34 PM
me+...nìwotx is how to say both, right? I swear I saw it in language updates or on the blog but i cant seem to find it
It's not from an actual blog post, but from a response to a comment (your comment, no less).
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Plumps

To be honest, I didn't understand it then ... and I'm still not getting it. Why have me+ which means 'two' and needing nìwotx to say 'both'? Whether I say 'I used my two hands to do s.t.' or 'I used both hands to do s.t.' makes no difference to me... Or am I misinterprating something? ???

Carborundum

Quote from: Plumps on December 07, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
To be honest, I didn't understand it then ... and I'm still not getting it. Why have me+ which means 'two' and needing nìwotx to say 'both'? Whether I say 'I used my two hands to do s.t.' or 'I used both hands to do s.t.' makes no difference to me... Or am I misinterprating something? ???

It depends on context, I'd say. If the expectation was that you for some reason would use only one hand, you might want to emphasize that you did, in fact, use both. That is when to use me+nìwotx.
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Ikran Ahiyìk

Quote from: Plumps on December 07, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
To be honest, I didn't understand it then ... and I'm still not getting it. Why have me+ which means 'two' and needing nìwotx to say 'both'? Whether I say 'I used my two hands to do s.t.' or 'I used both hands to do s.t.' makes no difference to me... Or am I misinterprating something? ???

Emphasizing them as a whole, or something "all of them" sort of.
me+ just simply means the number, "there are two..."

I see it as this way. I know a can't explain it exactly maybe, but at least they make sense to me..




Posted late for a while.. similar thought here
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Plumps

Right... tam, irayo nìtxan ma meylan ;)

So, it's not necessarily required to use me+ & nìwotx to convey 'both'

Sorry for goring off topic