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Offline `Eylan Ayfalulukanä

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Holiday greeting
« on: November 16, 2010, 01:33:21 am »
With the holidays just around the corner, it is a tradition every year for staff and board-of-directors members to do holiday greetings for station ID's and fillers. We tape these on Wednesday. Although I don't think they will allow it, I have prepared a Na`vi holiday greeting. Here goes:

Mì ftxozä srr, ngaru a lu sìltsan sì nìltsan, ta KNPB

This might be correct, but it is a mouthful to say well in 7 seconds.

Originally, I came up with (while 'shading cameras' for the board member holiday greetings):

Ngaru lu sìltsana nìltsana ftxozä srr, ta KNPB

This sounds nice but the attributive part is missing.

Any alternative ideas are welcome. Unlike other things I have been translating as of late, the 'base quote' is not as critical as long as it is a holiday wish, and as long as our callsign, KNPB is  clearly part of the phrase.


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Re: Holiday greeting
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 02:35:26 am »
You are trying to use sìltsan and nìltsan as the same part of speech, but they are completely different in how they are used; the words given for their English meanings don't exactly work the same way as in Na'vi.  Also, Frommer has repeatedly objected to sìltsan being used for that kind of "good".

Instead, why not just use the holiday greeting we've had since the beginning from Frommer?

Ayftxozä lefpom, ta ____
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Re: Holiday greeting
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 03:09:55 pm »
You are trying to use sìltsan and nìltsan as the same part of speech, but they are completely different in how they are used; the words given for their English meanings don't exactly work the same way as in Na'vi.  Also, Frommer has repeatedly objected to sìltsan being used for that kind of "good".

I had always thought nìltsan and sìltsan were adjectives. A check in the dictionary shows this is indeed incorrect. Oh well, it sounded nice...
I remember the discussion from the Workshop results about what kind of 'good' sìltsan is. I thought about it, and to, me, the 'good' we feel at the holiday season, is unquestionably 'good of its kind', and perhaps 'the best good of the best kind of goodness'.

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Instead, why not just use the holiday greeting we've had since the beginning from Frommer?

Ayftxozä lefpom, ta ____

It is a fault of mine that I do not look in the canon very often. I would have to read it every day for at least a couple of weeks to get stuff there to 'stick' consistently, and there is now a lot there to 'stick'. (Why didn't I get started earlier when this was all manageable???) So, this is a very good find (Irayo!) However, it is a bit short. But just below this was another Frommerian holiday greeting:

Ayftxozä lefpom ayngaru niwotx (ta ______) That works a little better for this purpose. So, that is what I am now practicing so it can be as correct as my speaking ability allows it to be.

Irayo nitxan!

UPDATE! They actually let me do it! Let;s see if they actually use it now. In final form, it was:

Ayftxozä lefpom ayngaru niwotx ta KNPB `awstengereym ayoeng olo`
« Last Edit: November 17, 2010, 09:37:53 pm by `Eylan Ayfalulukanä »

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Re: Holiday greeting
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 11:06:32 am »

UPDATE! They actually let me do it! Let;s see if they actually use it now. In final form, it was:

Ayftxozä lefpom ayngaru niwotx ta KNPB `awstengereym ayoeng olo`

Wou!  Seykxel sì nitram, ma tsmukan!  Will we be able to watch it?    ;D
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Re: Holiday greeting
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 08:54:32 pm »

Wou!  Seykxel sì nitram, ma tsmukan!  Will we be able to watch it?    ;D

Irayo ma Tirea Ikran!

They posted them online last year, and I expect they will do the same this year. Even if they don't (or don't use it at all), I am sure it will be loaded in our edit system somewhere and I should be able to nab that file (It is on videotape right now-- D-9 format if you are curious).

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