"I don't know"

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Ngawng

I don't know what to do with you
I don't know how to use a bow and arrow
I don't know why you are doing this

How does one express things like this in Na'vi?

-NgNg

29.f.australia

Plumps

That's a case for indirect and reported questions, I think

ke omum oel teyngta kempe si (oe) hu nga
ke omum oel teyngta fyape tsko swizawit sar
ke omum oel teyngta lumpe tsakem si nga


I don't know if this was your intent but it almost rhymes :)

Prrton


teynga, teyngta, teyngla, and teyngria are clause markers for a subordinate clause that contain a question. In English we would normally drop a clause marker with a question clause/phrase, but in Na'vi it is required.

Na'vi has a set of variable clause markers that change depending on the content being discussed.

  The teyngta family is required for question clauses. = "the answer to the question _____"

  The ayluta family is required for indirect quotation of speech. = "the words that _____"

  The fmawnta family is for general information. = "the news that ______"

  The futa family is for the broadest/most general category of verbs and contexts. "that ____"

You can see more about it HERE.


Blue Elf

Quote from: Prrton on August 07, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
teynga, teyngta, teyngla, and teyngria are clause markers for a subordinate clause that contain a question. In English we would normally drop a clause marker with a question clause/phrase, but in Na'vi it is required.
Well, I haven't seen "teyngria" and even Paul didn't speak about it in mentioned Naviteri post, so I'd be careful here. Although I can't see reason why it would be possible.

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  The fayluta family is required for indirect quotation of speech. = "the words that _____"
One small letter was missing :)
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Prrton

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 08, 2012, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: Prrton on August 07, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
teynga, teyngta, teyngla, and teyngria are clause markers for a subordinate clause that contain a question. In English we would normally drop a clause marker with a question clause/phrase, but in Na'vi it is required.
Well, I haven't seen "teyngria" and even Paul didn't speak about it in mentioned Naviteri post, so I'd be careful here. Although I can't see reason why it would be possible.

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  The fayluta family is required for indirect quotation of speech. = "the words that _____"
One small letter was missing :)

Teyngria is *theoretical, I suppose, but I don't see any reason that it could not occur.

I didn't mark ayluta with fì- or tsa-, but both are valid forms based on context.


Blue Elf

Quote from: Prrton on August 08, 2012, 12:50:34 AM
I didn't mark ayluta with fì- or tsa-, but both are valid forms based on context.
Yes, I understand now. It would work even without fì- or tsa- (not awaken enough yet)
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Prrton

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 08, 2012, 01:01:32 AM
Quote from: Prrton on August 08, 2012, 12:50:34 AM
I didn't mark ayluta with fì- or tsa-, but both are valid forms based on context.
Yes, I understand now. It would work even without fì- or tsa- (not awaken enough yet)

Trr lefpom ngaru liveiu, ma Tsmukan.*  ;D


Blue Elf

Nìprrte', ma Prrton :) Ngari nìteng
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Prrton

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 08, 2012, 01:12:03 AM
Nìprrte', ma Prrton :) Ngari nìteng

Oeri, li lu fìtseng txon.* Slä, tsalsungay ngaru seiyi irayo.* Oe set kan fmivi hivahaw nìmwey vay rewon.* Aysanhì lrrtok siveiyi.*


Ngawng

Irayo for the help, everyone. It's much appreciated.

29.f.australia