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My favorite quote.
« on: January 06, 2011, 09:54:39 pm »
Kaltxì ma frapo.  My favorite quote, which I'd like to translate into Na'vi for my signature, is:  "It is so simple to be happy, but so difficult to be simple."  I have the feeling that it is just not so simple (pardon the pun) as this:

Lu fìtxan ftuea livu anitram, slä lu fìtxan ngäzìka livu aftue.

Help appreciated.  Irayo.
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« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 09:58:53 pm by Alyara Arati »
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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 09:58:40 pm »
Kaltxì ma frapo.  My favorite quote, which I'd like to translate into Na'vi for my signature, is:  "It is so simple to be happy, but so difficult to be simple."  I have the feeling that it is just not so simple (pardon the pun) as this:

Fìtxan ftuea lu anitram, slä fìtxan ngäzìka lu aftue.

Help appreciated.  Irayo.
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fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.
so simple is this: be happy, but so difficult is this: be simple.

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 10:04:32 pm »
fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.
so simple is this: be happy, but so difficult is this: be simple.

I agree. But maybe we need to use fko here?

  fìtxan ftue lu fwa fko nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa fko ftue lu.

Or we can use fko as the topic:

  Fkori fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.

What are you thinking about this?

Added: and another idea:

  Fko fìtxan nìftue 'ivefu nitram, slä fìtxan nìngazìk livu ftue.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 10:10:45 pm by Kemaweyan »
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 10:06:55 pm »
Irayo ma Tirea Aean.  I was having all sorts of trouble with the "it is" parts, so much that I went back and edited what I thought it might work out as...which was sadly no closer.  Everyone on this forum has been so nice and helpful!
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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 10:13:43 pm »
fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.
so simple is this: be happy, but so difficult is this: be simple.

I agree. But maybe we need to use fko here?

  fìtxan ftue lu fwa fko nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa fko ftue lu.

Or we can use fko as the topic:

  Fkori fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.

What are you thinking about this?

good call! I like the first one. fko as a topic feels strange.

Irayo ma Tirea Aean.  I was having all sorts of trouble with the "it is" parts, so much that I went back and edited what I thought it might work out as...which was sadly no closer.  Everyone on this forum has been so nice and helpful!

no problem. that's why I love it so much!

yeah gettin stuff from english to na'vi is difficult. there are a number of incomptibilities in the vocab and grammar. they are so different in some ways. some things are super easy to translate and others are sooo difficult. this stuff is good tho. keep it up buddy! :D

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 10:16:30 pm »
fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.
so simple is this: be happy, but so difficult is this: be simple.

I agree. But maybe we need to use fko here?

  fìtxan ftue lu fwa fko nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa fko ftue lu.

Or we can use fko as the topic:

  Fkori fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.

What are you thinking about this?

good call! I like the first one. fko as a topic feels strange.

Please look at update of my previous post :) I want to hear your opinion about last effort  ;)
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 10:18:02 pm by Kemaweyan »
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 10:20:54 pm »
fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.
so simple is this: be happy, but so difficult is this: be simple.

I agree. But maybe we need to use fko here?

  fìtxan ftue lu fwa fko nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa fko ftue lu.

Or we can use fko as the topic:

  Fkori fìtxan ftue lu fwa nitram lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa ftue lu.

What are you thinking about this?

good call! I like the first one. fko as a topic feels strange.

Please look at update of my previous post :) I want to hear your opinion about last effort  ;)

I still vote option one. ;P tho that last one is certainly interesting, using adverbs.

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 10:24:06 pm »
Well.. what about the lu vs. 'efu with nitram? I think 'efu is more "nìNa'vi", if lu is possible at all...
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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 10:29:23 pm »
Well.. what about the lu vs. 'efu with nitram? I think 'efu is more "nìNa'vi", if lu is possible at all...

for this with you agree I completely. ::)

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 10:33:45 pm »
Would it help to say "to be a happy person" and "to be a simple person"?  That was more the spirit of the original quote, IMHO.
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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 10:36:00 pm »
Would it help to say "to be a happy person" and "to be a simple person"?  That was more the spirit of the original quote, IMHO.

sure. then it would look more like

lu fìtxan ftue fwa nitrama tute lu, slä lu fìtxan ngäzìk fwa ftuea tute lu.

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 10:37:10 pm »
Hmm.. just change nitram into nitrama tute and ftue into ftuea tute :)

  Fìtxan ftue lu fwa fko nitrama tute lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa fko ftuea tute lu.

And in this case it's possible to use only the verb lu, not 'efu :)

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 10:38:51 pm »
Hmm.. just change nitram to nitrama tute and ftue to ftuea tute :)

  Fìtxan ftue lu fwa fko nitrama tute lu, slä fìtxan ngäzìk lu fwa fko ftuea tute lu.

And in this case it's possible to use only the verb lu, not 'efu :)

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yeah....ninjad. :P but valid point about the old one making more sense with 'efu pairing with nitram, but here lu across the board.

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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 10:43:20 pm »
Great guys!  I love the symmetry.  Thanks again! :)
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Re: My favorite quote.
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2011, 10:45:09 pm »
Great guys!  I love the symmetry.  Thanks again! :)

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