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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2010, 06:41:33 pm »
I'll consider how to condense that a little.

I sure hope so! :)

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2010, 07:39:30 pm »
WoW very good!!!  :D

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2010, 09:48:35 am »
My friend and I have found the construction of "I have...."

Lu aylì'uhu ngaru.. ayngaru nìwotx - I have what to say...to all of you. (moment in film where Jake tells the truth about his mission) ;D
Pefya oel tsun tivìng atanit, txo ayfeyä aynari tsere'a mì txon???
Ma aysmukan si aysmuke, ayoeng zene 'awsiteng livu, talun kawnga krr set.
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2010, 09:50:13 am »
So it will look like
Lu....ru
Ex. I have an ikran - Oeru lu ikran 8)
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 03:17:53 am by justNaviBrother »
Pefya oel tsun tivìng atanit, txo ayfeyä aynari tsere'a mì txon???
Ma aysmukan si aysmuke, ayoeng zene 'awsiteng livu, talun kawnga krr set.
Ye'rìn oe spaw atan zilva'u ulte frapol Eywati kilvameie

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2010, 10:32:46 am »
My friend and I have found the construction of "I have...."

Lu aylì'uhu ngaru.. ayngaru nìwotx - I have what to say...to all of you. (moment in film where Jake tells the truth about his mission) ;D

That's not what Frommer says ... and I trust him more than Jake with his probably erroneous Na'vi language skills ;)
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 03:16:39 pm by Plumps83 »

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2010, 02:01:17 pm »
well put, Irayo. it is good to be able to ask someone how they are feeling. also, I laughed quite a bit at the example conversation.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2010, 11:38:41 pm »
So, I have a conversation about Lu...ru(I have), and my friends are not sure that this form is right :-\ what facts I can give them to make sure that they believe?
Pefya oel tsun tivìng atanit, txo ayfeyä aynari tsere'a mì txon???
Ma aysmukan si aysmuke, ayoeng zene 'awsiteng livu, talun kawnga krr set.
Ye'rìn oe spaw atan zilva'u ulte frapol Eywati kilvameie

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 01:14:43 pm »
http://wiki.learnnavi.org/index.php?title=Canon#Dative_.2B_copula_possessive

He can argue his disagreement with Frommer.  I don't think it's an argument he will win though.
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 02:00:31 pm »
http://wiki.learnnavi.org/index.php?title=Canon#Dative_.2B_copula_possessive

He can argue his disagreement with Frommer.  I don't think it's an argument he will win though.

Yes, I gave them this site, but they don't believe that it is Frommer's grammar (they think that someone made it, but not Frommer). Though, I have my opinion in this question ;) thanks man :D
Pefya oel tsun tivìng atanit, txo ayfeyä aynari tsere'a mì txon???
Ma aysmukan si aysmuke, ayoeng zene 'awsiteng livu, talun kawnga krr set.
Ye'rìn oe spaw atan zilva'u ulte frapol Eywati kilvameie

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2010, 03:28:57 pm »
Well they are welcome to keep learning the wrong thing, but that will only be their fault.  I don't need any more proof of it than the email from Frommer which I still have saved and spells out exactly what's on the wiki article.  (In fact, it's a copy & paste.)
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2010, 04:30:56 am »
Yeah, I see;) i've read almost all blogs;)
Pefya oel tsun tivìng atanit, txo ayfeyä aynari tsere'a mì txon???
Ma aysmukan si aysmuke, ayoeng zene 'awsiteng livu, talun kawnga krr set.
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2010, 05:41:06 pm »
ROFL, apparently the MTV blog team liked that cheesy sample conversation...

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/02/09/avatar-inspires-fans-to-do-crazy-things/
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2010, 04:41:55 pm »
I love this thread! It's been so helpful! Irayo!
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2010, 01:34:07 pm »
yeah..the sample comvo was both educational and a riot lol
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2010, 11:38:19 am »
lol i love that conversation funny! im going to use that
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 02:22:38 am »
What about "Sweet dreams"?  I know in English we often wish someone a good sleep by saying "good night" but in both Irish and Japanese (as well as other languages I'm sure) the idiom used to wish someone a good sleep is "good/lucky/peaceful dreams" (Oíche mhaith in Irish and Oyasumi nasai in Japanese respectively)

Given that, would it be appropriate to say something like "unil lefpom" as a blessing on sleep?

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 02:27:02 am »
Well we've been given "txon lefpom" as goodnight, but I don't see anything wrong with "unil lefpom".
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 02:54:37 am »
Irayo :D

See, to me, the meaning of "good night" is a little different from the meaning of "sweet dreams" and having a background in a couple languages that use that idiom has made me much more aware of my own use of it in everyday life, so I was curious.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2010, 03:00:16 am »
I'm still struggling with a background in only one language, when it comes to idioms.  But with Na'vi, there is not a lot of cultural history to draw on for idioms, and they basically need to be defined the same as the regular vocabulary.  So far, very few idioms that are not from Paul Frommer are in use because of that.
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2010, 09:08:44 pm »
Ok I'm a little slow today and new.. >_> anywhere to find pronunciations?

 

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