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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2010, 12:45:51 am »
Oe si irayo ngaru. It was a good idea to make a topic like this one. As a beginner I found this to help me out a lot. I'll keep looking back on this page for guidance.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2010, 06:02:21 am »
How about Frommer’s

    Srake fnan ngal lì’fyati leNa’vi?
    “How good is your Na’vi?” (lit. Are you good at the Na’vi language?)

Irayo! That's what I needed. Where do take quotations like this from?
BTW, what is Grace's first Na'vi line told to Norm? Isn't it question similar to this one?

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2010, 01:14:34 pm »
How about Frommer’s

    Srake fnan ngal lì’fyati leNa’vi?
    “How good is your Na’vi?” (lit. Are you good at the Na’vi language?)

Irayo! That's what I needed. Where do take quotations like this from?
BTW, what is Grace's first Na'vi line told to Norm? Isn't it question similar to this one?
That’s from Frommer’s blog Naviteri.org, the ‘Getting to know you’-sections from late September.
Yes, Grace asks that question, but in English and Norm answers in Na’vi…

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2010, 06:57:07 am »
Ha, again. Point for you. Irayo nìmun.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2011, 07:31:23 pm »
very helpful and great example

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Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2011, 05:41:26 am »
If I understand it good, phrase Txon lefpóm. is used for greetings, when the people meets. And when I wish good night to person who goes sleep, how can I say that? There is some idiom for that or not yet.

Is possible to say: Hiváheiaw nìmwéy. (something like "I wish you sleep peacefully.") ??
Srekrr tsatskxétsyìp tolúl tsáwla ayskxéä tìzusúpit...

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2011, 06:33:27 am »
Yes, Hivahaw nìmwey was given out by Frommer as being "good night" in the sense of "sleep well"
I don't think the ei is necessary here.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2011, 10:09:32 pm »
On a related note, another phrase could be Ayunil akalin (ngaru liveiu).

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2011, 11:54:27 am »
What was the Norm's line beginning with "Zìsìto amrr..."?

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2011, 11:57:21 am »
What was the Norm's line beginning with "Zìsìto amrr..."?
Zìsìto amrr ftolia ohe, slä zene fko nivume nìtxan.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2011, 12:02:39 pm »
Why do we use perfective here? He was learning, and he is still. That looks like totally non-perfective.

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2011, 05:11:04 pm »
Why do we use perfective here? He was learning, and he is still. That looks like totally non-perfective.

Perhaps because he was referring to his 5 years of study on 'Rrta?  That would be perfective, as he is no longer on 'Rrta and that phase of his learning is over.    ???
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #72 on: January 19, 2011, 07:07:38 pm »
If I understand it good, phrase Txon lefpóm. is used for greetings, when the people meets. And when I wish good night to person who goes sleep, how can I say that? There is some idiom for that or not yet.

Is possible to say: Hiváheiaw nìmwéy. (something like "I wish you sleep peacefully.") ??

no, you do not understand well.  Txon Lefpom is good night.  Trr lefpom(good day) is a greeting.
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2011, 02:36:49 am »
If I understand it good, phrase Txon lefpóm. is used for greetings, when the people meets. And when I wish good night to person who goes sleep, how can I say that? There is some idiom for that or not yet.

Is possible to say: Hiváheiaw nìmwéy. (something like "I wish you sleep peacefully.") ??

no, you do not understand well.  Txon Lefpom is good night.  Trr lefpom(good day) is a greeting.

But you can wish somebody a “good night/evening” without wishing them good sleep ;) In my understanding, everything with lefpom in it, counts as a general greeting.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2011, 04:51:34 am »
If I understand it good, phrase Txon lefpóm. is used for greetings, when the people meets. And when I wish good night to person who goes sleep, how can I say that? There is some idiom for that or not yet.

Is possible to say: Hiváheiaw nìmwéy. (something like "I wish you sleep peacefully.") ??

no, you do not understand well.  Txon Lefpom is good night.  Trr lefpom(good day) is a greeting.

But you can wish somebody a “good night/evening” without wishing them good sleep ;) In my understanding, everything with lefpom in it, counts as a general greeting.
Sran, I feel the same.

Why do we use perfective here? He was learning, and he is still. That looks like totally non-perfective.

Perhaps because he was referring to his 5 years of study on 'Rrta?  That would be perfective, as he is no longer on 'Rrta and that phase of his learning is over.    ???
Well, maybe. And what about "na'rìng a ayzìsìto tsar kea ayrìk ke lalmu". It's imperfective again. What's the meaning? This forest has got leaves already or not?

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2011, 02:57:37 am »
If I understand it good, phrase Txon lefpóm. is used for greetings, when the people meets. And when I wish good night to person who goes sleep, how can I say that? There is some idiom for that or not yet.

Is possible to say: Hiváheiaw nìmwéy. (something like "I wish you sleep peacefully.") ??

no, you do not understand well.  Txon Lefpom is good night.  Trr lefpom(good day) is a greeting.

But you can wish somebody a “good night/evening” without wishing them good sleep ;) In my understanding, everything with lefpom in it, counts as a general greeting.
One could argue that "Ayftxozä lefpom" is not a greeting.

Why do we use perfective here? He was learning, and he is still. That looks like totally non-perfective.

Perhaps because he was referring to his 5 years of study on 'Rrta?  That would be perfective, as he is no longer on 'Rrta and that phase of his learning is over.    ???
Well, maybe. And what about "na'rìng a ayzìsìto tsar kea ayrìk ke lalmu". It's imperfective again. What's the meaning? This forest has got leaves already or not?
With the perfective in "Zìsito amrr ftolia ohe" it's like "I studied for five years".  With the imperfective, if it's grammatically acceptable (I don't see why it wouldn't be, but you never know) I would suspect the meaning would be "I am studying for five years" - but I may only bee one year into the five years of study.

With "na'rìng a ayzìsìto tsar kea ayrìk ke lalmu", it is the forest which it had had no leaves for years.  This one seems a bit odd at first, because did they go to the forest while it had no leaves?  That's imperfective!  But the catch here is that it is not a phrase describing the event, it is just describing the forest.  Think of how odd it would be to say "The forest which it was not having leaves for years".
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2011, 12:56:15 pm »
This is odd in English but why in Na'vi?

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2011, 12:47:15 pm »
Irayo, this topic has proven to be extremely useful to me. When I read the example conversation it made me laugh and it made my day even better than it was before.  ;D

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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2011, 03:05:44 pm »
There's a small mistake in "How do you say ____ in Na'vi?/How do you say ____ in English" part - missing glottal stop in 'upe
____ nìNa'vi slu 'upe?
____ nì'ìnglìsì slu 'upe?
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Re: Na'vi expressions and idioms
« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2011, 03:10:19 pm »
I have not noticed missing glottal stop. Probably because I knew that it should be there.
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