Practice Sentences v2

Started by Cybersterio, December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM

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Cybersterio

Kaltxì :) I'm back with some practice sentences. These are mainly done so that I can incorporate vocabulary into sentences that I may be able to use in conversation. I would appreciate if you could check over it :) Also, is there any medium through which I can do basic conversation with other people?

Oe-yä Sa'nok lu koak
My mother is old

Nga-yä Sempu-lì t-er-aron ay-nantang-it
Your father is hunting viperwolves

Aytawtute-l '-ol-eko kelutral-it. Kelutral lu kelku  Omaticaya-yä
The skypeople attacked hometree. Hometree is the home of the Omaticaya

Ayfo-yä Pizayu-l tx-ol-ula tsray-it
Our Ancestors built the village

Oe-yä Me-sa'sem a-kerusey l-ol-u nawm-a me-taronyu
My dead parents were great hunters

Tsa-'eveng lu a-txantsan rol-yu
That child is an excellent singer

Po-yä 'ite lu 'ewan
Their daughter is young

Irayo :)

Kemaweyan

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Oe-yä Sa'nok lu koak
My mother is old

Good ;)

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Nga-yä Sempu-lì t-er-aron ay-nantang-it
Your father is hunting viperwolves

Ngeyä sempulìl teraron aynantangit.

We use -eyä suffix with pronouns. And after consonants we use -ìl (sempul-ìl).

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Aytawtute-l '-ol-eko kelutral-it. Kelutral lu kelku  Omaticaya-yä
The skypeople attacked hometree. Hometree is the home of the Omaticaya

Aysawtutel 'oleko kelutralit. Kelutral lu kelku Omaticayayä.

There is lenition after prefix ay+, so t becomes s.

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Ayfo-yä Pizayu-l tx-ol-ula tsray-it
Our Ancestors built the village

Ayfeyä pizayul txolula tsrayit.

Po is a pronoun, so use -eyä in genitive. Also you might say just feyä instead of ayfeyä, and tsrayti also would be correct (we can use both -ti and -it after diphthongs).

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Oe-yä Me-sa'sem a-kerusey l-ol-u nawm-a me-taronyu
My dead parents were great hunters

Oeyä mesa'sem akerusey lamu nawma mesaronyu

There is no need to add me- to sa'sem, because sa'sem means «parents» - mother and father. Also infix -ol- means completed action, but if you want to say about the fact in the past, you need past simple -am-. Also there is a lenition after me+ too :)

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Tsa-'eveng lu a-txantsan rol-yu
That child is an excellent singer

Tsa'eveng lu atxantsana rolyu

You must connect an adjective to noun with -a-, so it should be txantsana rolyu or rolyu atxantsan.

Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Po-yä 'ite lu 'ewan
Their daughter is young

Peyä 'ite lu ewan

As I said before, po is a pronoun and we must use suffix -eyä in genitive.
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Taronyu Leleioae

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Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Aysawtute-l '-ol-eko kelutral-it. Kelutral lu kelku Omatikaya
The skypeople attacked hometree. Hometree is the home of the Omatikaya

Kemaweyan is always a good teacher...  Sentence #3 (above) does need an additional fix which is easy to overlook...

There are a couple of words with irregular genitive (possession) endings.  You just need to memorize these to remember.
Omatikaya-ä (not Omatikayayä)
soaiä (not soaiayä)

Blue Elf

Quote from: Kemaweyan on December 14, 2013, 05:15:35 PM
Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Nga-yä Sempu-lì t-er-aron ay-nantang-it
Your father is hunting viperwolves
Ngeyä sempulìl teraron aynantangit.

We use -eyä suffix with pronouns. And after consonants we use -ìl (sempul-ìl).
Well, when I see word sempul, it occurred to me this idea:
if you use use affectionate form sempu (daddy), its agentive form is sempu-l, so sentence
Ngeyä sempu-l t<er>aron aynantang-it
could be considered as correct  ;)

Quote from: Kemaweyan
Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Ayfo-yä Pizayu-l tx-ol-ula tsray-it
Our Ancestors built the village
Ayfeyä pizayul txolula tsrayit.

Po is a pronoun, so use -eyä in genitive. Also you might say just feyä instead of ayfeyä, and tsrayti also would be correct (we can use both -ti and -it after diphthongs).
Nari si - with diphthongs there some irregularities, see this post on Naviteri
With ey you can use only -t (kxeyeyt, not *kxeyeyit); with ay both -t and -it are possible.

Quote from: Kemaweyan
Quote from: Cybersterio on December 14, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Oe-yä Me-sa'sem a-kerusey l-ol-u nawm-a me-taronyu
My dead parents were great hunters

Oeyä mesa'sem akerusey lamu nawma mesaronyu

There is no need to add me- to sa'sem, because sa'sem means «parents» - mother and father. Also infix -ol- means completed action, but if you want to say about the fact in the past, you need past simple -am-. Also there is a lenition after me+ too :)
See this comment on Naviteri; mesa'sem is not an error.
QuoteSa'sem is a bit tricky. Yes, it can be used for a set of parents, but it also means one parent. So we have sentences like, Nìkeftxo lu fì'evengur 'awa sa'sem nì'aw, 'Unfortunately this child has only one parent.' If there's no danger of misunderstanding and the meaning will be clear from the context, sa'sem is commonly used for 'parents.' But mesa'sem makes it clear that both parents are being referred to. To emphasize that even more strongly, we can add nìwotx, implying 'both of the parents, not just one (perhaps contrary to expectation).'
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)