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Re: She is more then me?
« on: December 15, 2010, 09:29:54 am »
Kaltxì!

I just got this little question, how do you say like:
-She are smarter then me
I don't know how to say that, Poe lu kanu nì'ul, means she are smarter (more smart) but then me I don't know how to get in to the sentence : P

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Use to than then

Poe lu kanu to oe. ... or
Poe lu kanu oeto.

Here we don't need nì'ul.




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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 03:39:12 pm »
Shouldn't it be than, and not then? :P
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 01:25:45 am »
Can I say

Poru lu ikran awin oeto

or do I have to say

Poru lu ikran. Poyä ikran oeyä ikranto lu win.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 01:44:29 am »
Only the second would be correct (except that it's peyä not poyä).  It's a bit more advanced but you COULD also do...

Poru lu ikran a oeyä pumto lu win.
He/she has an ikran which is faster than mine.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 04:14:20 pm »
Only the second would be correct (except that it's peyä not poyä).  It's a bit more advanced but you COULD also do...

This first seems correct to me, just saying that the ikran is faster than the speaker rather than the speaker's ikran.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 05:07:10 pm »
The first doesn't say that either.  Right now the only way we have to use to is comparing two things against a predicative adjective.  There's no predicative adjective here, just an attributive.  If it were reworded slightly...

*Poru lu ikran win oeto

Now it is more like "An ikran is faster than me to him/her" - though it's a little fuzzy exactly how the dative would enter into it, I don't think it would convey the idea of possession anymore.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 06:20:45 pm »
Any possibility of attaching '-to' directly onto the genitive?
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 06:31:56 pm »
Any possibility of attaching '-to' directly onto the genitive?

Nope.  To is an adposition, and these are never attached to anything but the bare subjective form of a noun or pronoun.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 08:10:00 am »
I know por lu ikran a win to oeyä pum lu is OK, but I understand lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto is not? Or is it?

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2010, 08:32:34 am »
AFAIK, not yet. Tsm. Kemaweyan asked Pawl about it, but, it seems, no reply yet.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2010, 08:35:00 am »
No, that was another idea - to with adjectives...

As for this sentence. lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu seems correct.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2010, 08:38:48 am »
What about lu por ikran awin oeyä pumto?

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2010, 08:40:46 am »
No, that was another idea - to with adjectives...

As for this sentence. lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu seems correct.

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2010, 08:44:25 am »
What about lu por ikran awin oeyä pumto?

Hmm.. I'm not sure.. Perhaps it's also correct, but I think it's better to use lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu :)
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2010, 08:48:30 am »
Using alu here seems a little bit better stylistically to me :)
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2010, 10:02:24 pm »
Using alu here seems a little bit better stylistically to me :)

Srane.  Seeing two "lu"s in that sentence seems a bit weird.

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2010, 10:10:37 pm »
Using alu here seems a little bit better stylistically to me :)

Srane.  Seeing two "lu"s in that sentence seems a bit weird.



No, alu is just a+lu :) So we whatever have two "lu"s here :) And it doesn't seem weird  ;)
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2010, 10:12:45 pm »
But why the second "lu" ???

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2010, 10:15:05 pm »
Because the sentence lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu means:

  He has an ikran and this ikran is faster than mine.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2010, 02:51:25 am »
So far here, the word pum is being used to substitute for ikran in the second clause:  lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu Is there any reason you could not also write: lu por ikran a win oeyä ikranto lu?

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