Re: She is more then me?

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Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on December 26, 2010, 02:51:25 AM
So far here, the word pum is being used to substitute for ikran in the second clause:  lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu Is there any reason you could not also write: lu por ikran a win oeyä ikranto lu?

No, but given na'vi's pro-drop nature, pumto is probably more natural.
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Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on December 26, 2010, 02:51:25 AM
So far here, the word pum is being used to substitute for ikran in the second clause:  lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu Is there any reason you could not also write: lu por ikran a win oeyä ikranto lu?
It would be the difference between "His ikran is faster than mine" and "His ikran is faster than my ikran".  Both are correct, though the second would probably seem a bit out of place or stilted in casual conversation.
Quote from: Sireayä mokri on December 24, 2010, 08:48:30 AM
Using alu here seems a little bit better stylistically to me :)
Does the sentence "He is a faster runner than I am" seem odd for using the verb "be" twice?
Quote from: Ataeghane on December 24, 2010, 08:38:48 AM
What about lu por ikran awin oeyä pumto?
"He has a fast ikran than mine."
Grammar intentionally slightly wrong there, to illustrate how it would come across.  The meaning would probably be understandable with some thinking about it, but it would sound odd, and be grammatically wrong.
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Quote from: omängum fra'uti on December 26, 2010, 03:10:49 AM
Does the sentence "He is a faster runner than I am" seem odd for using the verb "be" twice?

I'm totally fine with two lus, just don't want to separate a and lu where I can put them together :) Stylistically it sound better to me :)
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Quote from: Sireayä mokri on December 26, 2010, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: omängum fra'uti on December 26, 2010, 03:10:49 AM
Does the sentence "He is a faster runner than I am" seem odd for using the verb "be" twice?

I'm totally fine with two lus, just don't want to separate a and lu where I can put them together :) Stylistically it sound better to me :)

Same for me as well :)

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Well there is no specific requirement that it must be in that order, but of course it is perfect fine to order it like that if you wish; just know others may do it different.
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Quote from: omängum fra'uti on December 26, 2010, 11:14:48 PM
just know others may do it different.

And that is great. Diversity of ways to say something is what makes the language more natural :)
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Is, then, English not natural?

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Quote from: Ataeghane on December 27, 2010, 12:30:50 PM
Is, then, English not natural?

There's always only one way to say something in English?
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Ataeghane

Of course, there isn't, but the word order is much less free than Na'vi's.

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I wasn't talking specifically about word order. Just in general, more different ways to say the same=better for Na'vi :)
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Ataeghane

But there is shortage of vocabulary (synonyms). That is the problem.

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Sireayä mokri

Yeah, agree. But I don't think it will be a problem the more language develops.
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Ataeghane

It looks like language stopped developing (at least at the moment). No notes from Karyu, no Vocabulary Committee. If we wanted, we could invent tousands of words, then send it to Frommer and wait for his acceptation. But there is something I don't know that stops this process.

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I don't know either, but I'm pretty sure Na'vi doesn't want to have synonyms, at least not excessively.

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What about comparisons involving plurals? Could a sentence with 'ayngato nìwotx' in it be valid?
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Quote from: Eyawng te Klltepayu on December 28, 2010, 04:37:25 AM
What about comparisons involving plurals? Could a sentence with 'ayngato nìwotx' in it be valid?

It seems fine semantically (i.e., in terms of meaning).  I can't imagine it being illegal.

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The only reason I thought it might be illegal is that searches for 'ayoeto' 'awngato' and 'ayngato' revealed nothing. Surely somebody must have used these before?
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Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on December 28, 2010, 01:15:44 AM
I don't know either, but I'm pretty sure Na'vi doesn't want to have synonyms, at least not excessively.


Why do you think so?

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