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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 03:08:45 am »
So far here, the word pum is being used to substitute for ikran in the second clause:  lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu Is there any reason you could not also write: lu por ikran a win oeyä ikranto lu?

No, but given na'vi's pro-drop nature, pumto is probably more natural.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2010, 03:10:49 am »
So far here, the word pum is being used to substitute for ikran in the second clause:  lu por ikran a win oeyä pumto lu Is there any reason you could not also write: lu por ikran a win oeyä ikranto lu?
It would be the difference between "His ikran is faster than mine" and "His ikran is faster than my ikran".  Both are correct, though the second would probably seem a bit out of place or stilted in casual conversation.
Using alu here seems a little bit better stylistically to me :)
Does the sentence "He is a faster runner than I am" seem odd for using the verb "be" twice?
What about lu por ikran awin oeyä pumto?
"He has a fast ikran than mine."
Grammar intentionally slightly wrong there, to illustrate how it would come across.  The meaning would probably be understandable with some thinking about it, but it would sound odd, and be grammatically wrong.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2010, 08:58:02 am »
Does the sentence "He is a faster runner than I am" seem odd for using the verb "be" twice?

I'm totally fine with two lus, just don't want to separate a and lu where I can put them together :) Stylistically it sound better to me :)
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2010, 09:54:38 pm »
Does the sentence "He is a faster runner than I am" seem odd for using the verb "be" twice?

I'm totally fine with two lus, just don't want to separate a and lu where I can put them together :) Stylistically it sound better to me :)

Same for me as well :)

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2010, 11:14:48 pm »
Well there is no specific requirement that it must be in that order, but of course it is perfect fine to order it like that if you wish; just know others may do it different.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2010, 07:33:40 am »
just know others may do it different.

And that is great. Diversity of ways to say something is what makes the language more natural :)
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2010, 12:30:50 pm »
Is, then, English not natural?

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2010, 12:34:03 pm »
Is, then, English not natural?

There's always only one way to say something in English?
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2010, 12:42:20 pm »
Of course, there isn't, but the word order is much less free than Na'vi's.

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2010, 12:51:13 pm »
I wasn't talking specifically about word order. Just in general, more different ways to say the same=better for Na'vi :)
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2010, 01:28:33 pm »
But there is shortage of vocabulary (synonyms). That is the problem.

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2010, 01:33:12 pm »
Yeah, agree. But I don't think it will be a problem the more language develops.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2010, 02:39:23 pm »
It looks like language stopped developing (at least at the moment). No notes from Karyu, no Vocabulary Committee. If we wanted, we could invent tousands of words, then send it to Frommer and wait for his acceptation. But there is something I don't know that stops this process.

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2010, 01:15:44 am »
I don't know either, but I'm pretty sure Na'vi doesn't want to have synonyms, at least not excessively.

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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2010, 04:37:25 am »
What about comparisons involving plurals? Could a sentence with 'ayngato nìwotx' in it be valid?
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2010, 07:24:33 am »
What about comparisons involving plurals? Could a sentence with 'ayngato nìwotx' in it be valid?

It seems fine semantically (i.e., in terms of meaning).  I can't imagine it being illegal.
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2010, 07:50:44 am »
The only reason I thought it might be illegal is that searches for 'ayoeto' 'awngato' and 'ayngato' revealed nothing. Surely somebody must have used these before?
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Re: She is more then me?
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2010, 08:54:24 am »
I don't know either, but I'm pretty sure Na'vi doesn't want to have synonyms, at least not excessively.


Why do you think so?

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