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Offline Neyn'ite Te Tsahìk Txeptsyìp'ite

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thank you so very much?
« on: April 30, 2011, 02:06:55 pm »
so I noticed on the updated dictonary/translator (the app for iPhone/iPod) that the word for 'so' is fìtxan; 'very much' is nìtxan, so how would you say thank you so much or thank you so very much? just irayo fìtxan? or, I dunno, fnìtxan? ;)
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 02:40:23 pm »
Well, I think fìtxan nìtxan would be grammatical, but it does sound a bit odd with the stem repetition.  I'd probably just stick with irayo nìtxan, or convey intensity in other ways (maybe go formal if it's appropriate, throw in seiyi with irayo, use further expressions of gratitude, etc.).
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 02:47:29 pm »
what about nìftxan? its meaning is perfect. irayo nìftxan nìtxan. or even just irayo nìftxan.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 03:04:08 pm »
what about nìftxan? its meaning is perfect. irayo nìftxan nìtxan. or even just irayo nìftxan.

This word is only used in direct comparisons, unfortunately, so it won't work for this meaning.  With nìftxan you need a point of comparison.
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 03:09:45 pm »
ohh. didn't know. so probably just fìtxan nìtxan.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 08:27:37 pm »
arghh, we should make it fnitxan. I like that better. ;P
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2011, 09:30:30 pm »
I think "thank you so very much" is enough for thankings..
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2011, 09:35:03 pm »
srane, ma Ikran; however, what would you say? 'so' is fìtxan, and I am not sure there is a way to say much without saying very.
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 02:39:33 am »
I kind of like Irayo fìtxan nìtxan It has a nice ring to it. There are possible uses for this in song and poetry.

Where I see an issue with this is IMHO, Irayo fìtxan nìtxan seems kind of idiomatic. I'm not sure a Na`vi would express thing this way. Unless there is a really specific reason for this, I would follow Wm. Annis's suggestions for conveying the meaning you are trying to get across here.

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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 05:33:43 am »
Fìtxan isn't a direct translation of so, it just means "this much"..


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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 05:56:39 am »
I'm not sure a Na`vi would express thing this way. Unless there is a really specific reason for this, I would follow Wm. Annis's suggestions for conveying the meaning you are trying to get across here.

Agree. This "so" seems too "English-like". I think just adding <ei> would be the best option here.
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 10:43:03 am »
I want to warn you away from the direct translation.
As Prrton says: Translate meanings, no words. ;)
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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 10:47:30 am »
I want to warn you away from the direct translation.
As Prrton says: Translate meanings, no words. ;)

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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 10:15:54 pm »
For emphasis I have gone crazy via reduplication (don't take this as official BTW): irayo nìtxantxan(txantxan...)!

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Re: thank you so very much?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 10:25:01 pm »
It's an idiom that shouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshouldshould be noted! :D


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