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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2013, 01:28:24 am »
I am wondering if it is possible to use si on an adverb like kekem. I could see something like Fìtsengmì ke lu kekem and that should be correct as kekem is modifying a verb. I am not even sure if a sentence like Tsa'u ke kem si or Tsa'u kekem ke si is correct. It certainly has a strange meaning: "That thing no action". Something like Tsa'uru ke lu kekem, or perhaps Tas'uri ke lu kekem makes more sense, at least to this English-ruined mind.
First, kekem is not an adverb. It’s a noun or even a pronoun.
Also, as Tìtstewan pointed out, kekem ke si is an example from K. Pawl.
*Tsa’u ke kem si is definitely incorrect
Tsa’u kekem ke si would be ‘That (thing) does nothing.’

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2013, 02:34:26 am »
Here you go.

Ma Tirea, you were right about it always being pronounced ayweng ;) My bad, ngaru tsulfä :D

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2013, 02:38:22 am »
:) Yay

Thanks for going out and getting the confirmation and posting it. :D

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2013, 07:32:43 am »
Here you go.
^Change complete. :)

Edit: fixed some typos...
« Last Edit: August 29, 2013, 09:11:15 am by Tìtstewan »

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2013, 11:46:24 pm »
Ma eylan, I think, I really have to note a nice stuff about *moeng here. :P

For all who studies the pronouns:

Read here to know why *moeng doesn't exist.
Please, read the whole thread. (it's funny, too^^)
 :P :P ;D ;)

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2013, 06:16:13 am »
Have you ever thought about putting the Guide into a downloadable PDF?
I imagine that it would be helpful for people to have it as a printable version.

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2014, 10:15:42 pm »
^This.

I thought about, and yes that would be a great idea! I will create a file. :)


Have you ever thought about putting the Guide into a downloadable PDF?
I imagine that it would be helpful for people to have it as a printable version.
Fìtsenge ma 'eylan. :)


Tse, I've have improved this guide a little bit. Also I'm going to (work in process) create a file-based guide on HTML basic which will replace that PDF version. In that HTML-version, the translation for the Na'vi text works, for example.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2014, 07:44:16 pm by Tìtstewan »

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2014, 10:52:45 pm »
Tse, I've have improved this guide a little bit. Also I'm going to (work in process) create a file-based guide on HTML basic which will replace that PDF version. In that HTML-version, the translation for the Na'vi text works, for example.

I would still "publish" a pdf version available for download though for offline use, once you are done editing your pronoun guide.

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2014, 03:40:55 pm »
Ma Taronyu Leleioae, there is a PDF version and that HTML version will working offline, of course. ;) :)
You just need a browser, and everyone have one, I think.

Anyway, I've re-uploaded the PFD version.



So, a little preview of that upcomming HTML version. :)
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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2014, 10:55:19 pm »
Sooo, finally, it's done! :D

HTML version is finished:
Download the Pronoun Guide

I hope, it looks good for everyone.


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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2014, 04:09:19 am »
I have added file with the Russian Translation in the OP.  Many thanks to baritone, who translated it! :D

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2014, 04:26:28 am »
I have added file with the Russian Translation in the OP.  Many thanks to baritone, who translated it! :D
Thank you! I was just about to report it :)
I'm glad to work on other translations to make Na'vi the language of international communication in Internet  :P

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2015, 05:44:42 am »
kaltxì, ma Tîtsewan.

Why does a L comes in oel ngahu kamaeie, but the I from is oe?
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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2015, 06:33:05 am »
kaltxì, ma Tîtsewan.

Why does a L comes in oel ngahu kamaeie, but the I from is oe?

Kaltxì ma tsmuk,

it’s oel ngati kameie. The L and T forms of the pronouns and nouns in general are needed when you use a verb that is intransitive, i.e. one that requires the subject to do something with/to the object, like “see, eat, know, build” etc.


oe lu skxawng :-X

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2015, 07:11:04 am »
^ What nawma Plumps said :)
Just some examples from me:

Oe nga kame - incorrect sentence which doesn't make clear who sees who. No clear object or subject, also the infix <ei> is missing to show the positive emotion.

Oet ngal kameie - You see me, and I feel good about it.

Oel ngati kameie - I see you, and feel good about it.


Another one...

Oe taron palulukan. Again, it's not clear who hunts who. Wordorder doesn't help us in Na'vi to see who does what, even in German and other languages we need cases.

Oet taron palulukanìl. The Thanator hunts me.

Oel taron palulukanit. I hunt the Thanator.

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2015, 07:31:30 am »
irayo eana unil sì plumps  :)
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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2015, 06:30:37 pm »
[...]verb that is intransitive, i.e. one that requires the subject to do something with/to the object, like “see, eat, know, build” etc.


Just to avoid confusion. ;)

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2015, 03:18:47 am »
[...]verb that is intransitive, i.e. one that requires the subject to do something with/to the object, like “see, eat, know, build” etc.
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Just to avoid confusion. ;)

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Re: The Pronoun Guide
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2015, 07:04:21 am »
It's all good ma Plumps :) Just a silly typo. I've made so many of those in my time, for sure.

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