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Offline Tìflä Na'viyä

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Translation Help
« on: February 24, 2010, 02:25:41 am »
Kaltxì nìwotx!
(Hello all! That's what it's meant to say but feel free to correct any errors  :))

The main reason for the post is that I would like to say 'Victory of the People' in Na'vi which is the meaning of my name (Nicola  ;D)

The only problem is that I can't find any translations for 'victory' or 'of' so need a little help (if there are any direct translations).

I read in the dictionary that 'Na'vi' means 'the People' (or the closest that I can find anyway) so I'm halfway there.

Irayo for reading and for any advice (even if it's about word order!)

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Offline Unil Akawng

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Re: Translation Help
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 02:44:03 am »
Kaltxì nìwotx!
(Hello all! That's what it's meant to say but feel free to correct any errors  :))

The main reason for the post is that I would like to say 'Victory of the People' in Na'vi which is the meaning of my name (Nicola  ;D)
Kaltxì!

Currently, there is no exact translation for "victory" as far as I know. The closest thing I can currently think of, will be "success" - tìflä, or, perhaps, "overcoming" - tìemza'u (this one is questionable, though).
To say "of the people", you'll need to put Na'vi into genitive case, hence Na'viyä [victory].

Oh, and for "Hello all" Kaltxì frapo is commonly used.

I hope that was somewhat helpful!
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Offline Tìflä Na'viyä

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Re: Translation Help
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 03:08:51 am »
Irayo ma tsmukan!

So what word order would that be? At the moment I'm just getting to grips with 'I give the spear to him' in Na'vi...

And 'Yä' is what makes 'Na'vi' genitive? As in possesive of 'tiflä'?
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Offline Unil Akawng

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Re: Translation Help
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 03:23:28 am »
So what word order would that be? At the moment I'm just getting to grips with 'I give the spear to him' in Na'vi...
Word order is mostly syntactically free in Na'vi, so it can be either Na'viyä [victory] or [victory] Na'viyä.
"I give the spear to him" would be Oel tìng tukruti poanur, I guess.

And 'Yä' is what makes 'Na'vi' genitive? As in possesive of 'tiflä'?
Quite right, genitive case marking denotes the posessor.
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Offline Tìflä Na'viyä

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Re: Translation Help
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 03:32:04 am »
Kaltxì!

Thanks for the assist, very much appreciated - it would have taken me ages otherwise  :)

Irayo!

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Offline Nìkllas

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Re: Translation Help
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2010, 11:23:48 pm »
Names can't be just simply translated into any language... names are special constructs in the languages they occur... sometimes there are possible compatibilities for instance latin and greek are more compatible than say japanese and latin. That's why you have a name like Theophilos translated to greek Amadeus, but there is not a translation for Philippos as Amaequus XD

The case with Nicholas (or derivates), this comes from greek Nikolaos, a composition from niké "victory, triumph" and laos "town, people". This doesn't mean it means "Victory of the People", because it is not "niké laou" which would be the genitive of "laos". In fact the composition of words in greek demands that the first changes from niké to niko-. I know there is no word for "victory" because I looked for it... my name is also Nicholas  :)

 

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