Re: Tsaheylu/tsahey!? and dubble adverb?

[Carborundum]

I did say some na'vi to my brother some day ago, and I did say: oe numeie nìna'vi, slä oe ke tsun pivlltxe nìna'vi nìsìltsan.
Suposed to mean: I learn na'vi (and are happy for that) but I can't speak na'vi good. Is this said right or is it wrong with 2 adverbs to describe a verb?

That's a pretty good sentence, I'd just change the nìNa'vi in the first part to lì'fya leNa'vi. Numeie nìNa'vi means "learning Na`vily", or "learning like the People".
Multiple adverbs like you have in the second part is fine.

[kewnya txamew'itan]

I did say some na'vi to my brother some day ago, and I did say: oe numeie nìna'vi, slä oe ke tsun pivlltxe nìna'vi nìsìltsan.
Suposed to mean: I learn na'vi (and are happy for that) but I can't speak na'vi good. Is this said right or is it wrong with 2 adverbs to describe a verb?

That's a pretty good sentence, I'd just change the nìNa'vi in the first part to lì'fya leNa'vi. Numeie nìNa'vi means "learning Na`vily", or "learning like the People".
Multiple adverbs like you have in the second part is fine.

Remember that if you did replace the nìna'vi (which you have to) you'd have to mark for case so put -l on the oe (because it is the agent of the learning) and -ti on lì'fya (because it is the patient of the learning (thing being learnt)).

[Carborundum]

Thanks!  
so the sentence sould be: oel numeie lì'fyati lena'vi, slä oe ke tsun pivlltxe nìsìltsan lì'fyati lena'vi.
Is this right said    

I am uncertain about the underlined part. I don't know if plltxe can be used transitively. Would it be correct to say "*oel plltxe lì'fyati leNa'vi"?
I'm thinking probably not, because looking through the corpus I am unable to find a single instance of plltxe being used transitively.

If that is indeed the case, you would have go with the double adverbs you used initially. "Oel numeie lì'fyati lena'vi, slä oe ke tsun nìltsan nìNa'vi" is definitely correct.
"Plltxe nìNa'vi" means "speak like the People", which - unlike "learn like the People" - is what we're trying to say.

[Tirea Aean]

Thanks!  
so the sentence sould be: oel numeie lì'fyati lena'vi, slä oe ke tsun pivlltxe nìsìltsan lì'fyati lena'vi.
Is this right said    

I am uncertain about the underlined part. I don't know if plltxe can be used transitively. Would it be correct to say "*oel plltxe lì'fyati leNa'vi"?
I'm thinking probably not, because looking through the corpus I am unable to find a single instance of plltxe being used transitively.

If that is indeed the case, you would have go with the double adverbs you used initially. "Oel numeie lì'fyati lena'vi, slä oe ke tsun nìltsan nìNa'vi" is definitely correct.
"Plltxe nìNa'vi" means "speak like the People", which - unlike "learn like the People" - is what we're trying to say.

Oel numeie lì'fyati leNa'vi, slä ke tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe nìltsan.

[Carborundum]

Thanks!  
so the sentence sould be: oel numeie lì'fyati lena'vi, slä oe ke tsun pivlltxe nìsìltsan lì'fyati lena'vi.
Is this right said    

I am uncertain about the underlined part. I don't know if plltxe can be used transitively. Would it be correct to say "*oel plltxe lì'fyati leNa'vi"?
I'm thinking probably not, because looking through the corpus I am unable to find a single instance of plltxe being used transitively.

If that is indeed the case, you would have go with the double adverbs you used initially. "Oel numeie lì'fyati lena'vi, slä oe ke tsun nìltsan nìNa'vi" is definitely correct.
"Plltxe nìNa'vi" means "speak like the People", which - unlike "learn like the People" - is what we're trying to say.

Oel numeie lì'fyati leNa'vi, slä ke tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe nìltsan.

Right. Somehow the pivlltxe escaped. Darn slippery words...

[Tirea Aean]

OH and i'm calling coincidence with the tsahey tsaheylu thing. but for now thats just what I think.

[Lance R. Casey]

I'm thinking probably not, because looking through the corpus I am unable to find a single instance of plltxe being used transitively.

Yet there is one:

Tengkrr palulukan moene kxll sarmi, poltxe Neytiril aylì'ut a frakrr 'ok seyä layu oer.
As the thanator was charging towards the two of us, Neytiri said something I will always remember.

[Carborundum]

Ah, look at that. In that case I suppose you could say oel plltxe lì'fyati leNa'vi, but plltxe oe nìNa'vi is the more common way to put it.

[Ikran Ahiyìk]

But for "speak the Na'vi language", "speak as the People" shares the same meaning, and it is more simple.

Thanks for your finding also

[wm.annis]

In that case I suppose you could say oel plltxe lì'fyati leNa'vi,

I think that's actually an error, of usage and idiom, though, not grammar.  For speak (some language) we should probably stick to plltxe + adverb.

[omängum fra'uti]

Note the stress is different.

Tsa-hey
Tsaheylu

[Tirea Aean]

Note the stress is different.

Tsa-hey
Tsaheylu

nice. i didnt catch this because I didnt consult the dictionary for that. so yeah. total coincidence it is.

[Ikran Ahiyìk]

I can't find the tsa-hey, anyone know which part of the movie (or other) it from?



And I found that the stress making in Taronyu's dictionary is tsa-hey...