Vocabulary

[txum tukru]

awesome, submit it to seabass so he can put it up on the main page!

[Eywayä mokri]

I was thinking about writing him a message. There is a thread that is always up to date here if you want:

http://forum.learnnavi.org/index.php?topic=117.0 (bookmark it!^^)

[Eywayä mokri]

Added:

* New versions of the vocabularies: added the word "beautiful - lor" on both vocabularies.

[omängum fra'uti]

For those wondering where lor - adj. beautiful comes from, it's from Frommer in response to Prrton over on the language log
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1977

And sevin, meaning 'pretty,' is used only for people (Na'vi or humans). A better word here is lor, meaning 'beautiful, pleasant to the senses.'

[Eywayä mokri]

For those wondering where lor - adj. beautiful comes from, it's from Frommer in response to Prrton over on the language log
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1977

And sevin, meaning 'pretty,' is used only for people (Na'vi or humans). A better word here is lor, meaning 'beautiful, pleasant to the senses.'

Irayo ma tsmukan for the addition of the inormation.

[Na'rìghawnu]

Hello, everybody.

In the first post of this thread it was said, that

We all know that a vocabulary already exists on the internet, the link is also on the forum.

Well, I just wanted to ask for this link, since I couldn't find it (shame on me). I'm very interested in getting the "original" version of this vocabulary, so if someone could pass me the link to it, that would really help me. Thank you!

[Brainiac]

I think the link they're referring to is this one:
http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=611

[Na'rìghawnu]

Ah, thank you! So the original of this list seems to be in that "Survival Guide" book. I have to get this soon.
Thanks again!

[Eywayä mokri]

I think the link they're referring to is this one:
http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=611

That was this link, yep. Irayo, ma Brainiac.

[Brainiac]

I think the link they're referring to is this one:
http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=611

That was this link, yep. Irayo, ma Brainiac.

Ke'ufpi

[Na'rìghawnu]

In the "Learn-Navi-Pocket-Guide" downloadable on this site, the Na'vi-vocabulary is not only given in transcription but also in IPA-symbols. This IPA indicates the accent (stress) of a word, if the word has got one. I would like to know, from what source this information was taken, since the "Survival Guide"-book merely indicates the accent by underlining, but the "Pocket Guide" has IPA-accent-signs in much more words than the ones with the underlining in the "Survival guide".

As for an example: the word "sìltsan" has no underlining in the "Survival Guide", but the "Pocket-Guide" contains the IPA-transcript /sɪl.'ʦan/, indicating a stress on the second syllable. And there are many, many more examples like this one.

I would really like to know the source of the IPA-transcipts in the "Pocket Guide", since this source cant be the pages in the "Survival Guide". Thanks everybody for elightment!

[Eywayä mokri]

I am really sorry I can't answer your question. I used suburbiandestiny to make the vocabulary.


By the way I am planning making a new version of the categorized vocabulary. I wanna make a more compact one.

[Eywayä mokri]

Update:

* New versions available, v. 3.0 : The vocabulary has been compacted in two columns. From 12 to 6 pages, enjoy.

[Eywayä mokri]

I don't know why you are putting this in this thread. But am happy to see that.

[Swoka Swizaw]

Question: is Frommer still working on most of this? Beyond this being a pet project, what is his further involvement with creating more to the established canon, if any? Has he demonstrated/been demonstrated the idea of allowing "fans" to create and submit their own word ideas. That, to me, appears the only way to ensure the language grows with any real consistency that would appeal to the base. There isn't a word for water, yet. Seriously.

Any thoughts?

[Taronyu]

In the "Learn-Navi-Pocket-Guide" downloadable on this site, the Na'vi-vocabulary is not only given in transcription but also in IPA-symbols. This IPA indicates the accent (stress) of a word, if the word has got one. I would like to know, from what source this information was taken, since the "Survival Guide"-book merely indicates the accent by underlining, but the "Pocket Guide" has IPA-accent-signs in much more words than the ones with the underlining in the "Survival guide".

As for an example: the word "sìltsan" has no underlining in the "Survival Guide", but the "Pocket-Guide" contains the IPA-transcript /sɪl.'ʦan/, indicating a stress on the second syllable. And there are many, many more examples like this one.

I would really like to know the source of the IPA-transcipts in the "Pocket Guide", since this source cant be the pages in the "Survival Guide". Thanks everybody for elightment!

Karyu Amaway assumed that there was a pattern behind the stress, and filled in the words that he thought had stress. I do not know about his pattern.

[Sіr. Ηaxalot]

I have made up two words on my own now, wich basically is combinations of original Na'vi words

Tawtsahaylu ~ Wireless Connection (Sky Bond - Taw tsahaylu) - I'm planning on renaming a renameable router near school to this name To bad that the one that everyone used is passworded by now
kiteeyu - Server (Server + er) - I have a server with this name now. First it was named kitee, then I saw the principle if adding yu in the end of some Na'vi words (ex. Hunter). It might of course also mean Servant.

[Numeyu Aftxavang]

I have made up two words on my own now, wich basically is combinations of original Na'vi words

Tawtsahaylu ~ Wireless Connection (Sky Bond - Taw tsahaylu) - I'm planning on renaming a renameable router near school to this name To bad that the one that everyone used is passworded by now
kiteeyu - Server (Server + er) - I have a server with this name now. First it was named kitee, then I saw the principle if adding yu in the end of some Na'vi words (ex. Hunter). It might of course also mean Servant.

I like the idea of using "taw" to express something done through the internet. We could also apply this to e-mail taw'upxare or to an online news service tawfmawn. German, for instance, does a similar thing with the aforementioned e-mail - "blitztelegramen" (if I got the spelling right I owe you twenty bucks). sure, "blitz" translates more suitably to electricity, but sky still seems like a good alternative.

[Ataeghane]

Tawtsahaylu ~ Wireless Connection (Sky Bond - Taw tsahaylu)

Sky is used as an adjective here, I think so. So we should add "le-" at the begining (letaw). And when we mean "sky bond" we can say "letawa tsahaylu" or "tsahaylu (a)letaw". Am I not wrong?

PS. Is "tsahaylu" or "tsaheylu" correct? Some sources says "tsahaylu", some "tsaheylu". IMO "tsaheylu" sounds better.

[Swoka Swizaw]

Tawtsahaylu ~ Wireless Connection (Sky Bond - Taw tsahaylu)

Sky is used as an adjective here, I think so. So we should add "le-" at the begining (letaw). And when we mean "sky bond" we can say "letawa tsahaylu" or "tsahaylu (a)letaw". Am I not wrong?

I feel that when describing something that has the ability to have been different and/or CAN change/be changed, then your assumption of the use of "le-" is true. But, something (a connection) as pertains to being of/from something else, of which condition can't be altered, would not incur the affix. I am from California, but that is not as much of a concern describing me as noting that I am tall, most of the time. Anything that falls into such an important category as the latter of that comparison would receive "le-". For a precise example: Tawtute. Right out of the canon.

PS. Is "tsahaylu" or "tsaheylu" correct? Some sources says "tsahaylu", some "tsaheylu". IMO "tsaheylu" sounds better.

TsaHEYlu. HEY, you all, get it right! Rutxe! And your profile image is awesome.