Vocabulary

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Quote from: Ataeghane on January 15, 2010, 03:08:21 PM
QuoteTawtsahaylu ~ Wireless Connection (Sky Bond - Taw tsahaylu)
Sky is used as an adjective here, I think so. So we should add "le-" at the begining (letaw). And when we mean "sky bond" we can say "letawa tsahaylu" or "tsahaylu (a)letaw". Am I not wrong?

PS. Is "tsahaylu" or "tsaheylu" correct? Some sources says "tsahaylu", some "tsaheylu". IMO "tsaheylu" sounds better.

It looks like you don't need the le in compound words (tawtute for example should really be either letawa tute or tawyä tute) so tawtsaheylu would be fine.

As for tsahaylu/tsaheylu, we're not sure. In the film it's always pronounced tsaheylu but the text we've been given has it spelt tsahaylu. Until we hear from Frommer either is OK.
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Ataeghane

Oh, irayo. I really looks like there is no affix in compound words. I didn't know about "tawtute". Thank you for answering question.

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Taronyu

Edited the first post, Eywayä. Just included links to my two dsictionaries, I think that's helpful.

Ataeghane

Do you know if there is any word for "use"? I think it's very useful word...  ???

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Txaslan

You should add the new words Frommer introduced in his answers in the Language Log to the Dictionary.  ;)

Taronyu

Quote from: Txaklan on January 19, 2010, 07:37:32 AM
You should add the new words Frommer introduced in his answers in the Language Log to the Dictionary.  ;)

I've done that. Didn't we add them here, as well?

Swokéyan

Now this is very handy :D Irayo
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ftia (me) has put up a table of about 500 words.
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Can sort by na'vi, english, word type, #letters, etc.
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MawnŽtey Ateyo

Hurray first post! Oh, some might know this but if you'd like, I have found a site with basic Na'vi vocab! :)

http://www.learnnavi.org/navi-vocabulary/

Eaite Randjam

Quote from: MawnŽtey Ateyo on February 04, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
Hurray first post! Oh, some might know this but if you'd like, I have found a site with basic Na'vi vocab! :)

http://www.learnnavi.org/navi-vocabulary/
That is, of course, connected and affiliated with these forums.

Arthur

#90
> On an email recently (Jan 30th) received, Frommer began his letter with
QuoteNgeyä pxesìpawmìri ngaru seiyi oe irayo.
'Awa tìpawmìri 'iveyng oe set; aylari zusawkrr 'ayeyng.
> I searched high and low for their meanings, but I couldn't find the meaning of aylari.
> I think it says
Quote
I thank you for your three questions.
I'm answering the first question now, aylari answer soon.
> Can someone help me analyze the phrases?
> So far I got:
Nge-yä pxesìpawmìri nga-ru s(e)<iy>i oe irayo
You-GEN three-questions-TOP you-ACC do<IMM> I thank

'Awa tìpawmìri 'iveyng oe set; aylari zusawkrr 'ayeyng.
One-ADJ question-TOP SJV-answer I now; aylari on the future PL-answer.

> I believe pxesìpawmìri means "as for the three questions", tìpawmìri means "as for the question", and 'ayeng, "the answers". Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
> However I couldn't find out what "lari" means, assuming "aylari" stands for PL-lari.
> Shed some light, please, ma smukan?

Unil Akawng

Quote from: Arthur on February 04, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
> However I couldn't find out what "lari" means, assuming "aylari" stands for PL-lari.
> Shed some light, please, ma smukan?

Aylari is probably a short form of aylaheri, "as for the others" (consider how aylaheru-> aylaru, "to the others").
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Atan'eveng

Kaltxì ma smuktu

Can anyone tell me if 'eveng is inflected by gender? Like 'evenge and 'evengan (weird)
I ask because, since 'eveng means "child" and "child's not inflected in the languages I know, I was wondering if there is this possibility in Na'vi.

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Erimeyz

We don't know for sure.  We don't have a definitive ruling, and we don't have a lot of examples.

However, it appears that in Na'vi any noun that could actually be male or female can take the male or female endings - but they never have to, and usually don't.  So, yes, 'evenge and 'evengan are probably correct... but in most cases will be unnecessary.

  - Eri

Unil Akawng

Quote from: Atan'eveng on February 16, 2010, 05:55:52 PM
Can anyone tell me if 'eveng is inflected by gender? Like 'evenge and 'evengan (weird)...

I think formally yes, it can, but it's completely redundant, because we already have 'itan and 'ite  ;)
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Atan'eveng

That's what I thought, but someone told me that 'itan and 'ite are more like, literally son and daughter and 'eveng is more figurative. I ask because of my nickname, anyway, I go with 'eveng for now, it sounds way better.

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Unil Akawng

Quote from: Atan'eveng on February 17, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
...'itan and 'ite are more like, literally son and daughter and 'eveng is more figurative. I ask because of my nickname, anyway, I go with 'eveng for now, it sounds way better.
Well, this might be true, but currently it's only guesswork, nonetheless. Karyu Pawl provided us only with the direct meaning of the words, the subtleties of vocabulary usage still remain unknown.

Quote from: Atan'eveng on February 17, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
I ask because of my nickname, anyway, I go with 'eveng for now, it sounds way better.
Uh, I don't know, atan'ite sounds way better in my opinion. But perhaps it's just me, as I tend to dislike the gender-neutral terms generally. See no need to be wishy-washy in this respect, kind of. ;D
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wm.annis

Quote from: Unil Akawng on February 17, 2010, 11:14:55 AMBut perhaps it's just me, as I tend to dislike the gender-neutral terms generally. See no need to be wishy-washy in this respect, kind of. ;D

That's not wishy-washy, that's just the language.  Na'vi likes the gender neutral terms, something it shares with more Human languages than you might suppose (Mandarin Chinese, for example, or Persian, or Finnish...).

Unil Akawng

Quote from: wm.annis on February 17, 2010, 11:21:59 AM
That's not wishy-washy, that's just the language.  Na'vi likes the gender neutral terms, something it shares with more Human languages than you might suppose (Mandarin Chinese, for example, or Persian, or Finnish...).
The smile at the end of my post is there for a reason, you know... Besides, Russian being my native tongue, such approach is only natural. :)
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Atan'eveng

I said it sounds better than 'evenge  ;D I like atan'ite, it was actually my first nickname as you all might have noticed, maybe I'll go back to  this one.
I know the difference between 'eveng and 'ite is just a guess but you can see the difference between Mo'at'ite and Eywa'eveng, I don't knw....
anyway, not being wishy-washy, just had to ask since it's a language nobody, except Paul, knows.
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