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Your worst Na'vi word
« on: July 11, 2018, 04:05:05 am »
Is there a particular Na'vi word which you hate, for any reason? :D

I think I hate the word "fpom" and "lefpom".  >:( It's so un-Na'vi. The initial fp- is so weird, and the ending on -m makes it even more weird. It sounds like a playful singing or baby-talk.   :facepalm:

What is disappointing is that it has such a beautiful meaning: well-being, peace, happiness. I wish I could use this word all day, if it wasn't pronounced like "fpom". ::) And sadly, it must be one of the first and most useful words that you should learn, because of the expression: Ngaru lu fpom srak?

Na'vi is full of exotic, beautiful and high-sounding words. Why the word for "well-being" must be pronounced like "fpom"?  :'(
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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2018, 05:14:58 am »
For me it's words where vowel RR follows letter P. I can't say that I would hate it but in any case this combination sounds a bit weird for me...
Many other words with vowel RR are my favourite (lrrtok, nrr, nrra...)

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 08:06:25 am »
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It's so un-Na'vi

Not many words could be more Na'vi. fp is a cool cluster imo, one which I have never encountered before Na'vi, and ending with an m? we have so many Na'vi words that do that.

IMO, kxì is by far a more offensive word to me. It's cringy. kaltxì -> kxì??? tx -> kx??? couldn't just be a truncation, or dropping of the unstressed syllable kal... the word kxì bears no resemblance to kaltxì except for containing ì at the end. @[email protected]

Also, lumpe is not very popular because of the n->m nasal assimilation. Even worse than this is the m->ng in leymkem (pronounce m as ng, but still spell with m) or ever stranger, the m->(disappears) pronunciation of txumnga' as txunga' (still spelled as txumnga').

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 08:26:55 am »
No problem with words starting with fp-, although I am not a fan of words ending with -m. And I would call my cat "Mister Fpom" or I would shout "fpom!!" jokingly while slapping my pal. I would guess that "a fpom" is some plant of insect of Pandora. But for its meaning, to express wellness or ask someone "how are you", I would prefer some less playful and more exotic-sounding word, like many others in Na'vi :D

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 08:39:09 am »
IMO, kxì is by far a more offensive word to me. It's cringy. kaltxì -> kxì??? tx -> kx??? couldn't just be a truncation, or dropping of the unstressed syllable kal... the word kxì bears no resemblance to kaltxì except for containing ì at the end. @[email protected]
Ah, kxì ;D
This word don't offend me however I have a bit strange feelings when I see this word...

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 08:43:42 am »
This word don't offend me however I have a bit strange feelings when I see this word...

yeah actually, that's rather what I meant to say, when I said offensive

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 03:34:04 pm »
IMO, kxì is by far a more offensive word to me. It's cringy. kaltxì -> kxì??? tx -> kx??? couldn't just be a truncation, or dropping of the unstressed syllable kal... the word kxì bears no resemblance to kaltxì except for containing ì at the end. @[email protected]
This. I really don't understand why it was proposed and why some people find it cool. I don't like its form and don't want to use it.

Another word or phrase I don't like is pängkxoyu lekoren. Really has  anyone ever seen lawyer on Pandora? Hard to believe...

Also some tongue twisters or wordplays like ekxtxu, txll'u, kxll etc. are not my favourites, although I can't say I hate them. On the other hand, atxkxe is fine for me.
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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2018, 09:48:24 am »
Also some tongue twisters or wordplays like ekxtxu, txll'u, kxll etc. are not my favourites, although I can't say I hate them. On the other hand, atxkxe is fine for me.

I agree, especially on ekxtxu.

Any words with RR used to drive me crazy, but after a few different attempts at learning it, and trying several months of practicing RR in the shower, I'm finally getting it!

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 11:57:38 pm »
I can't think of any specific words, probably because my knowledge is super limited, but for me if I see any word longer then like 7 letters my eyes go super wide.  Like I don't even know how to start pronouncing that cohesively.  Like "kefpomtokxnga’"  and then you start adding like pre and suffixes and everything just gets so O.O I can't even...

But oh damn, you give me anything with rr and I'm a happy camper.  I'll roll dem rs all day long! :D krrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lessgo

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2018, 04:11:42 am »
but for me if I see any word longer then like 7 letters my eyes go super wide.  Like I don't even know how to start pronouncing that cohesively.  Like "kefpomtokxnga’"  and then you start adding like pre and suffixes and everything just gets so O.O I can't even...
And what about "Meoauniaea" ;D (my favourite word ;D )

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2018, 08:22:54 am »
Mine too. I love vowel combinations, they give Na'vi a polynesian flavor :)

I also like reduplications that are frequent in polynesian and (less frequently) african languages (ahiahi, Kamehameha, rongorongo, pikipiki, polepole, nuanua) but sadly, they are uncommon in Na'vi

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2018, 08:28:53 am »
kxangangang is one of our only documented cases of reduplication. others are letrrtrr, nìtrrtrr, krro krro

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2018, 08:30:07 am »
I still think Kxì and Ngaru lu fpom srak are thr worst. the former because it is illogical and weird, and the latter because of its gross massive overuse

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2018, 08:32:04 am »
Mine too. I love vowel combinations, they give Na'vi a polynesian flavor :)
Yeah, true :) Next nice word with polynesian flavor is "Leioae"

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2018, 08:40:05 am »
I still think Kxì and Ngaru lu fpom srak are thr worst. the former because it is illogical and weird, and the latter because of its gross massive overuse
Hmm ... kxì  sounds really a bit weird.
Any other reasons (phonology, linguistic...) for "Ngaru lu fpom srak?" or it's just for massive overuse?

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2018, 08:51:58 am »
just huge overuse. It has become somewhat cringe-inducing o.o

so many have I seen ehose vocabulary and sentence arsenal consist solely of the following:

{
kaltxì
ngaru lu fpom srak
srane ngaru tut
irayo
}

It is my hope that everyone may start here but ever expand this set by always learning :)

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2018, 08:54:37 am »
Ah, true.
However "irayo" is one of my the most favourite words ;D

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2018, 08:58:42 am »
txintìn because I can't spell it
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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2018, 09:03:39 am »
And what about "prrkxentrrkrr "? :P

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Re: Your worst Na'vi word
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2018, 09:53:51 am »
And what about "prrkxentrrkrr "? :P
it's the best word ;D
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