Adverb -> Verb derivational change?

Started by KxanìaTaronyu, March 19, 2010, 09:13:30 AM

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KxanìaTaronyu

In current discussions with people in the IRC and Teamspeak servers, I have discovered something that is probably much needed in the Na'vi language; A derivational change for Adverb -> Verb.

Although it is hard to explain to you, I think this should be brought up.

Example: The word 'nìNa'vi'  means 'In a Na'vi way' but, it is considered an adverb.. If we could change this to a verb, it would create a new form of words, that would help explain things... (I told you it was hard to explain!!)

Anyway; Please post your ideas/opinions!

Irayo ulte Eywa ngahu!

KxanìaTaronyu.
"Oel kameie ayngati. Irayo ayngaru ulte Eywa ngahu. 'Ivong Na'vi aysmukan sì aysmuke. Aynga lu Eywayä ayeylan ulte aynga lu yawne oer. Kìyevame!" 

Ftiafpi

I like this idea but it is WAYYYYY over my head, I'll let the true linguists weigh in on this one.

wm.annis

Quote from: KxanìaTaronyu on March 19, 2010, 09:13:30 AM
In current discussions with people in the IRC and Teamspeak servers, I have discovered something that is probably much needed in the Na'vi language; A derivational change for Adverb -> Verb.

This is a rather funky idea.  Adverbs are usually themselves derived, not the source for additional derivation.  Even the example you gave, nìNa'vi, leads me to wonder how deriving a verb from that would differ from simply deriving a verb from the root, Na'vi.

Can you give examples of how you think this would be used?

KxanìaTaronyu

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Quote from: wm.annis on March 19, 2010, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: KxanìaTaronyu on March 19, 2010, 09:13:30 AM
In current discussions with people in the IRC and Teamspeak servers, I have discovered something that is probably much needed in the Na'vi language; A derivational change for Adverb -> Verb.

This is a rather funky idea.  Adverbs are usually themselves derived, not the source for additional derivation.  Even the example you gave, nìNa'vi, leads me to wonder how deriving a verb from that would differ from simply deriving a verb from the root, Na'vi.

Can you give examples of how you think this would be used?

It's kinda hard to put what's in my head into words, and give examples. >.<

I could only think of one that might work: Oe ne'ìm neto,...

The Derivational changer could either go before or after neto.
"Oel kameie ayngati. Irayo ayngaru ulte Eywa ngahu. 'Ivong Na'vi aysmukan sì aysmuke. Aynga lu Eywayä ayeylan ulte aynga lu yawne oer. Kìyevame!" 

Tìmuiäyä'itan

I think there you use an English word (to back?) that happens to be written the same as the adverb "back"...

Speaking from a non English speakers point of view (I'm German) this is strange. You would rather expect some construction with "go" and multiple adverbs as "back" and "away", I guess.

Oe kä neto ne'ìm... just wonder if you'd need the point you're going to as well...?

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