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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2480 on: February 06, 2019, 02:32:37 pm »
It has come to my attention that only half of our verbs that are eligible for the svin. marking have been marked as such:


The reason for this happening is almost certainly because not even Frommer uses the svin. convention to distinguish stative verbs from any other intransitive verb, and definitions from Na'viteri are entered directly into our database. Effectively, svin. does not even officially exist as a type.

A discussion in the Discord chat concluded that the svin. marking also does not provide anything particularly useful, and is a totally custom in-house type.

I would like to make a motion to:

1) convert all current svin. types to vin.
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2) continue with vin. for all intransitive verbs, as released on Na'viteri

Would any second this?

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2481 on: February 06, 2019, 02:33:43 pm »
Oe second fì'u. :)

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2482 on: February 06, 2019, 03:23:19 pm »
I third the motion  ;D

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2483 on: February 06, 2019, 08:12:59 pm »
I can fourth that as long as we can extract a list of stative verbs

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2484 on: February 06, 2019, 08:17:42 pm »
I can fourth that as long as we can extract a list of stative verbs

A more effective method already exists for fwew users:

`fwew -r -p=vin. be`

It will list every stative verb by virtue of every one of their definitions including the word "be" . As seen in my previous post, this query already is more effective than the `/list pos has svin.` query, because half of our svin.s are currently just marked as vin. o.o

EDIT: Also, as Pamìrìk points out, is there anything inherently useful about stative verbs that isn't already covered by the fact that they are intransitive verbs? Usage-wise, they are really no different than any other vin. For this reason, I'm not sure if it's necessary for them to have a separate word class.

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2485 on: February 06, 2019, 08:20:54 pm »
In that case it's fine by me. No need to be categorized svin. anyway.

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2486 on: April 20, 2019, 11:18:49 pm »
I've discovered that there are a number of words that need adjustments in the IPA, where trilled r was used instead of flap r:


also, IPA and infix data for hipx is not correct. (should be h·ip', but it is currently hip')

EDIT: Also, the following verbs are missing raised dot / infixes data:

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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2487 on: April 27, 2019, 11:22:54 pm »
IPA for tìftiatu kifkeyä

Expected:
[tɪ.fti.ˈa.tu ki.ˈfkɛ.jæ]

Actual:
[tɪ.ftiˈa.tu kì.ˈfkɛJ.Jæ] (missing syllable separator, ì for I, J for j)

IPA for tìftia kifkeyä

Expected:
[tɪ.fti.ˈa ki.ˈfkɛ.jæ]

Actual:
[tɪ.ftiˈ.a ki.ˈfkɛ.jæ] (\textprimstress before syllable separator)

EDIT:
also, stiwi si is "be naughty, do mis" in the database dumps, because on EE, the field says "be naughty, do mis\-chief" and the \- is causing truncation.
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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2488 on: April 28, 2019, 04:03:32 am »
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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2489 on: April 28, 2019, 04:25:56 am »
IPA for tìftiatu kifkeyä

Expected:
[tɪ.fti.ˈa.tu ki.ˈfkɛ.jæ]

Actual:
[tɪ.ftiˈa.tu kì.ˈfkɛJ.Jæ] (missing syllable separator, ì for I, J for j)

IPA for tìftia kifkeyä

Expected:
[tɪ.fti.ˈa ki.ˈfkɛ.jæ]

Actual:
[tɪ.ftiˈ.a ki.ˈfkɛ.jæ] (\textprimstress before syllable separator)

EDIT:
also, stiwi si is "be naughty, do mis" in the database dumps, because on EE, the field says "be naughty, do mis\-chief" and the \- is causing truncation.
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Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Reply #2490 on: April 30, 2019, 05:34:29 pm »
srìn is defined as "transfer from one to another" and should be changed to "temporarily transfer from one to another" as per the post:

http://naviteri.org/2012/01/more-additions-to-the-lexicon/

 

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