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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2011, 01:00:06 am »

I spotted a little mistake in the text of swawtsyìp:

 PF n. litte moment, second (derived from swaw moment)
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2011, 07:37:44 am »
Corrected. Thanks!

Lì’fyari leNa’vi ’Rrtamì, vay set ’almong a fra’u zera’u ta ngrrpongu
Na'vi Dictionary: http://eanaeltu.learnnavi.org/dicts/NaviDictionary.pdf

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #102 on: June 21, 2011, 03:40:53 am »
Noticed small typo:
ngrrpongu: PF n. grassroots movemenet (c.w. from ngrr root and pongu party)
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #103 on: June 21, 2011, 03:46:04 am »
Noticed that kawtseng and tsapo is not yet in it.
From here

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #104 on: June 21, 2011, 08:16:10 am »
Ngrrpongu definition corrected. Kawtseng and tsapo added. New revision is 12.22.

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Lì’fyari leNa’vi ’Rrtamì, vay set ’almong a fra’u zera’u ta ngrrpongu
Na'vi Dictionary: http://eanaeltu.learnnavi.org/dicts/NaviDictionary.pdf

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #105 on: June 21, 2011, 08:36:48 am »
Ngrrpongu definition corrected. Kawtseng and tsapo added. New revision is 12.22.

Irayo!

Dutch dictionary updated as well.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #106 on: June 21, 2011, 10:32:37 pm »
u'\xcc' is Ì, which is in the word 'Ìnglìsì in naviWords.txt. u'\x92' is ’ (right single quote), which is present in two lines of eng.txt:
"be busy (negative sense): be tired out and overwhelmed by an activity that’s keeping one busy"
"in a fashion as if one’s life were at stake"
Since these characters are not in CP437, you get an error trying to print them to the console.
That explains the errors :)

I guess TA should change the ’ with a ', and change the Ì to a lowercase ì.

Also...I rewrote the updater and am debugging it now. It asks before installing updates and offers to try again if any of the 11 files fail during download.

One thing I discovered in the process: you never published an est.txt file on tirea.skxawng.lu

If it's cool, I'm gonna do the bold red thing.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2011, 10:34:23 pm by Tirea Aean »

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2011, 05:19:57 pm »
u'\xcc' is Ì, which is in the word 'Ìnglìsì in naviWords.txt. u'\x92' is ’ (right single quote), which is present in two lines of eng.txt:
"be busy (negative sense): be tired out and overwhelmed by an activity that’s keeping one busy"
"in a fashion as if one’s life were at stake"
Since these characters are not in CP437, you get an error trying to print them to the console.
That explains the errors :)

I guess TA should change the ’ with a ', and change the Ì to a lowercase ì.

Also...I rewrote the updater and am debugging it now. It asks before installing updates and offers to try again if any of the 11 files fail during download.

One thing I discovered in the process: you never published an est.txt file on tirea.skxawng.lu

If it's cool, I'm gonna do the bold red thing.

lu hasey.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2011, 06:44:28 pm »
'Ìnglìsì is a proper name, so I would say it should be capitalized like the other names. If a program can't display Ì, the problem is better dealt with in that specific program.
Ma evi, ke'u ke lu prrte' to fwa sim tuteot ayawne.
Slä txo tuteo fmi 'ivampi ngat ro seng, fu nìfya'o, a 'eykefu ngati vä', tsakem ke lu sìltsan.
Tsaw lu ngeyä tokx! Kawtu ke tsun nìmuiä 'ivampi ngat txo ngal ke new tsakemit.
Ha kempe si nga? Nì'awve, nga plltxe san kehe. Tsakrr, ngal tsatsengti hum!

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2011, 08:37:07 pm »
'Ìnglìsì is a proper name, so I would say it should be capitalized like the other names. If a program can't display Ì, the problem is better dealt with in that specific program.

hmm. coulda swore i already did that. Either way, I hadn't noticed that propers are capitalized by convention. reverting back.

EDIT: 'ìnglìsì is just a loaned noun, apparently. jakesully also seems to be lowercased while Europa and a few others are capitalized. shall I cap both 'Ìnglìsì and Jakesully(JakeSully??)?
« Last Edit: June 22, 2011, 08:46:23 pm by Tirea Aean »

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2011, 11:31:46 pm »
Srane rutxe.  Irayo in advance.

[img]http://swokaikran.skxawng.lu/sigbar/nwotd.php?p=2b[/img]

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Srake serar le'Ìnglìsìa lì'fyayä aylì'ut?  Nari si älofoniru rutxe!!

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2011, 11:36:52 pm »
would the congregation prefer "Jakesully" or "JakeSully" ?

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #112 on: June 22, 2011, 11:42:38 pm »
For what it's worth, the DVD subtitles consistently use "Jakesully":
Ma evi, ke'u ke lu prrte' to fwa sim tuteot ayawne.
Slä txo tuteo fmi 'ivampi ngat ro seng, fu nìfya'o, a 'eykefu ngati vä', tsakem ke lu sìltsan.
Tsaw lu ngeyä tokx! Kawtu ke tsun nìmuiä 'ivampi ngat txo ngal ke new tsakemit.
Ha kempe si nga? Nì'awve, nga plltxe san kehe. Tsakrr, ngal tsatsengti hum!

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #113 on: June 22, 2011, 11:44:55 pm »
I see. I'm not sure who can refute that. Jakesully it shall be then....(unless there's heavy opposition?)
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #114 on: June 22, 2011, 11:48:12 pm »
Emm.. I think in last picture Tsu'tey says "Tsamsiyu. Txopu rä'ä si, tsamsiyu" (why without "ma"?). I don't remember your translation...
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #115 on: June 23, 2011, 12:51:00 am »
Emm.. I think in last picture Tsu'tey says "Tsamsiyu. Txopu rä'ä si, tsamsiyu" (why without "ma"?). I don't remember your translation...
It's actually from a bit later, when Jake has conquered the ikran and just started flying it. The two random Na'vi on the left are cheering for him; Tsu'tey is about to make them be quiet with an "oìsss!"
Ma evi, ke'u ke lu prrte' to fwa sim tuteot ayawne.
Slä txo tuteo fmi 'ivampi ngat ro seng, fu nìfya'o, a 'eykefu ngati vä', tsakem ke lu sìltsan.
Tsaw lu ngeyä tokx! Kawtu ke tsun nìmuiä 'ivampi ngat txo ngal ke new tsakemit.
Ha kempe si nga? Nì'awve, nga plltxe san kehe. Tsakrr, ngal tsatsengti hum!

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #116 on: June 29, 2011, 11:24:29 am »
I saw that the WotD is Srane. and it says it's an adverb?? GASP. How do you use /yes/ as an adverb?


same with Kehe. Are these really adverbs, or just intj. (srane is marked as both, kehe is apparently just an adv and not an intj. )???

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #117 on: June 29, 2011, 11:37:10 am »
In English they can be adverb, noun, verb or intj. (I would think kehe would be more likely intj. than srane, frankly).  Question is, in Na'vi are these words limited to a particular usage? This is probably another good example to see how these words are used in other languages.

Lì’fyari leNa’vi ’Rrtamì, vay set ’almong a fra’u zera’u ta ngrrpongu
Na'vi Dictionary: http://eanaeltu.learnnavi.org/dicts/NaviDictionary.pdf

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #118 on: June 29, 2011, 11:45:19 am »
personally, I'm trying very hard to think how to use srane and kehe (yes and no, at least) as an adverb...

I walked yes up to the store.

the hunter was yes hunting.

it seems wacky.

the neighbor look at me no.

the bomb no exploded.

I cant seem to do it. Other than putting yes and no at the beginning, which maybe makes a sentence adverbial which either confirms or refutes the validity of the content of the sentence?

EDIT: as far as I've seen, that's the way it works in na'vi too.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #119 on: June 29, 2011, 11:46:35 am »
I saw that the WotD is Srane. and it says it's an adverb?? GASP. How do you use /yes/ as an adverb?
It is how I copied it from the Dictionary. Apparently the 'injt.' fell off somehow. I can fix that on the website, but the tweet is now out of my hands, so to speak
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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