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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #140 on: July 02, 2011, 02:44:21 am »
Edited srane, sran and kehe to be part., intj. New revision is 12.24.
Dutch version updated as well.
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #141 on: July 07, 2011, 04:25:17 pm »
I'm not sure why it was put in but some time last year (Early August), the definition of "syaw" was updated from "call" to "call, name".  I take some issue with this, as it in no way means anything like "name".  There is an idiom which means roughly "What is your name", but even that is more literally translated as "In what manner does one call to you".

Frommer has defined it merely as "call", and I found no justification (Other than the implied use in an idiom) for adding to the definition.
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #142 on: July 07, 2011, 04:37:45 pm »
I'm not sure why it was put in but some time last year (Early August), the definition of "syaw" was updated from "call" to "call, name".  I take some issue with this, as it in no way means anything like "name".  There is an idiom which means roughly "What is your name", but even that is more literally translated as "In what manner does one call to you".

Frommer has defined it merely as "call", and I found no justification (Other than the implied use in an idiom) for adding to the definition.

I'll get that when I get back home. unless Markì beats me to it.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #143 on: July 07, 2011, 08:39:14 pm »
Definition of syaw corrected. New version is 12.241

Lì’fyari leNa’vi ’Rrtamì, vay set ’almong a fra’u zera’u ta ngrrpongu
Na'vi Dictionary: http://eanaeltu.learnnavi.org/dicts/NaviDictionary.pdf

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #144 on: July 08, 2011, 05:13:33 am »
Just noticed that "ultxarun" and "ultxa si" are still marked as "v.".

As those are actions/things you do to/with someone, would they qualify as "vtr."?

Oe ultxarun ngaru - I incidentally meet to you sounds a bit odd. Ultxarun comes partly from run, which is vtr. as well.

Any thoughts?
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #145 on: July 08, 2011, 05:39:38 am »
Ultxa si is necessarily syntactically intransitive by virtue of being a si-construction, but this particular one marks the thing/person being met with with hu (source). No definitive data on ultxarun (AFAIK), but the run basis certainly implies a transitive verb.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #146 on: July 08, 2011, 06:02:40 am »
Just curious: where is the source for tung being vtr.?
AFAIK, we’ve been trying to get a confirmation for this but up until now, no success. Could be that I missed something.  :-\

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #147 on: July 08, 2011, 07:02:16 am »
Ultxa si is necessarily syntactically intransitive by virtue of being a si-construction, but this particular one marks the thing/person being met with with hu (source). No definitive data on ultxarun (AFAIK), but the run basis certainly implies a transitive verb.

It certainly seems that ultxarun should be vtr.  ???

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #148 on: July 08, 2011, 07:38:44 am »
Ultxa si is necessarily syntactically intransitive by virtue of being a si-construction, but this particular one marks the thing/person being met with with hu (source). No definitive data on ultxarun (AFAIK), but the run basis certainly implies a transitive verb.

It certainly seems that ultxarun should be vtr.  ???

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #149 on: July 10, 2011, 06:34:10 pm »
updated stress on

tìftia

and accordingly on

tìftia kifkeyä

*reminding self to add that to the changelog and change the version when I get back home, unless Markì beats me*

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #150 on: July 10, 2011, 08:35:06 pm »
We got a new word confirmed from the panel yesterday: fwefwi.  We also got a new idiom too: fwäkì ke fwefwi.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #151 on: July 10, 2011, 08:48:25 pm »
We got a new word confirmed from the panel yesterday: fwefwi.  We also got a new idiom too: fwäkì ke fwefwi.



Irayo. But what does that idiom mean?
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #152 on: July 10, 2011, 09:20:24 pm »
We got a new word confirmed from the panel yesterday: fwefwi.  We also got a new idiom too: fwäkì ke fwefwi.



Irayo. But what does that idiom mean?
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #153 on: July 10, 2011, 09:37:47 pm »
...and my first thoughts: peu? ???

However it has a meaning and moreover it sounds cool ;D

* 'Oma Tirea adds this one to sneyä thread

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #154 on: July 10, 2011, 09:53:35 pm »
* 'Oma Tirea adds this one to sneyä thread

which thread?

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #155 on: July 10, 2011, 10:07:26 pm »
The one from the 'ÌTXTSTXRR in my sig.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #156 on: July 10, 2011, 10:11:08 pm »
The one from the 'ÌTXTSTXRR in my sig.



OHH Right. because it's one of those "plltxe alo apxey ko" type of sentences xD

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #157 on: July 11, 2011, 10:19:39 am »
Noticed the infix position for fkeytok is given as *fk‹1›eyt‹2›ok while it should be fkeyt‹1›‹2›ok.
From here.

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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #158 on: July 11, 2011, 10:26:55 am »
Noticed the infix position for fkeytok is given as *fk‹1›eyt‹2›ok while it should be fkeyt‹1›‹2›ok.
From here.


Hrh ;D I just wrote fkeytayok intuitively, but then I wondered and changed it to fkayeytok...
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Re: The Dictionary Part II
« Reply #159 on: July 11, 2011, 10:32:36 am »
Hrh ;D I just wrote fkeytayok intuitively, but then I wondered and changed it to fkayeytok...

And that’s a good sign, ma Kem ;) It’s precisely because of this example that I was confused … had to check and found the little error in the dictionary. No problem there :D If anything it helps to make the dictionary better :)

 

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