Jake vs. Captain Kirk

[Clarke]

I have been hissing at warps that have flying at me

warps? 

Yeah, random ships from Starfleet come by and need a nice hissing at. 

Why hiss at Starfleet Ships?

Well, Kirk could give Jake some competition. 

that would is good question. Who would win a fight Jake or Kirk?

Assuming it's Avatar-Kirk, Spock. 

[Ean Hufwetulyu]

Avatar Kirk

[Clarke]

Any particular reason? 

[Ean Hufwetulyu]

avatar Kirk v. Spock
Kirk would have more strenght, speed, and with his wild nature.

[Human No More]

Jake. Kirk always needed help

[Ean Hufwetulyu]

true

[Dreamlight]

I will always root against the tawtute. 

[Human No More]

Well, humans in ST are a lot friendlier and more responsible than real humans, even if Kirk isn't a great example (Picard > Kirk in every single way )

[Oelatem]

Avatar-Kirk would mop the floor with Jake and bed Neytiri afterwords. 

[Ean Hufwetulyu]

WOW  OH  WOW

[Clarke]

Well, humans in ST are a lot friendlier and more responsible than real humans, even if Kirk isn't a great example (Picard > Kirk in every single way )

...Ah, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. They should have taken Quaritch out and sent in Picard. He could have talked the Na'vi out of Hometree. 

[Txur’Itan]

Well, humans in ST are a lot friendlier and more responsible than real humans, even if Kirk isn't a great example (Picard > Kirk in every single way )

...Ah, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. They should have taken Quaritch out and sent in Picard. He could have talked the Na'vi out of Hometree. 

With Picard's history, he would be more inclined to uphold the prime directive and work to extricate all of hell's gate and inhabiting human personnel, intent on leaving the Na'vi to develop on their own without further interference from humanity.  The planet's proximity to earth would have placed it firmly within federation space, but the era predates federation law.  Picard and crew would have been on their own to uphold it.  They would have tried to save as many lives as possible, but ultimately would have been forced to shoot down all human craft on Pandora from orbit.

Picard needed Kirk's help to defeat a simple brawler, but that is what Kirk does, solves problems with his fists or phasers.  He would have shot down all of the human military craft with Enterprise weapons to uphold federation ideals. 

I have been hissing at warps that have flying at me

warps? 

Yeah, random ships from Starfleet come by and need a nice hissing at. 

Why hiss at Starfleet Ships?

Well, Kirk could give Jake some competition. 

that would is good question. Who would win a fight Jake or Kirk?

Assuming it's Avatar-Kirk, Spock. 

In a competition for learning cultures, Picard has show exceptional skill, including the ability to learn unusual languages.

Picard would be more able to ingratiate himself in a similar fashion to grace, having chosen the academic route.

Kirk would have stumbled into things like Jake, thinking like an officer, but targeting his immediate objectives excluding all other considerations.  Learning the culture would be bottom of the list.  He would work more to try to work on saving the Na'vi from the humans without getting them involved.

If Kirk and Jake were to fight, it would depend on how old each of them was at the time of the confrontation.  Old Kirk is not so spry, but young Kirk used to punch rocks.

If Picard and Jake were to fight, Picard would get flummoxed by punches and kicks, knees and elbos.

[Human No More]

Well, humans in ST are a lot friendlier and more responsible than real humans, even if Kirk isn't a great example (Picard > Kirk in every single way )

...Ah, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. They should have taken Quaritch out and sent in Picard. He could have talked the Na'vi out of Hometree.  

Prime directive. He'd have destroyed Hell's Gate with a phaser strike from orbit and beamed up all the RDA equipment and arrested the marines and miners.

With Picard's history, he would be more inclined to uphold the prime directive and work to extricate all of hell's gate and inhabiting human personnel, intent on leaving the Na'vi to develop on their own without further interference from humanity.  The planet's proximity to earth would have placed it firmly within federation space, but the era predates federation law.  Picard and crew would have been on their own to uphold it.  They would have tried to save as many lives as possible, but ultimately would have been forced to shoot down all human craft on Pandora from orbit.

Exactly
Kirk would have tried too, but in a different way.

Picard needed Kirk's help to defeat a simple brawler, but that is what Kirk does, solves problems with his fists or phasers.  He would have shot down all of the human military craft with Enterprise weapons to uphold federation ideals.  

Kirk always needed help. Picard defeated multiple klingons on his own and resisted cardassian torture and borg assimiation where kirk would have cracked straight away.

If Picard and Jake were to fight, Picard would get flummoxed by punches and kicks, knees and elbos.

You underestimate Picard. Big mistake.


TNG: Starship Mine. Picard defeats an entire group of terrorists on his own. Also the only non-vulcan to use a vulcan nerve pinch other than Data and Odo (both with capabilities far beyond humans), and Archer (who had the memories of Surak at the time). He'd lose, but only through being lesser in pure strength.

[Clarke]

Well, humans in ST are a lot friendlier and more responsible than real humans, even if Kirk isn't a great example (Picard > Kirk in every single way )

...Ah, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. They should have taken Quaritch out and sent in Picard. He could have talked the Na'vi out of Hometree. 

Prime directive. He'd have destroyed Hell's Gate with a phaser strike from orbit and beamed up all the RDA equipment and arrested the marines and miners.

Prime directive doesn't exist yet, and even if it did, it doesn't apply to the RDA. Besides, it's already been violated. Removing the RDA wouldn't actually help that.

[Human No More]

Picard didn't exist yet either, so your logic is invalid (particularly since in that timeframe in ST, humans already had FTL).

There are multiple cases of damage control where the prime directive has been violated, within TNG (e.g. TNG: Who Watches The Watchers), but also Voyager (e.g. VOY: False Profits).

[Clarke]

Picard didn't exist yet either, so your logic is invalid

Q does.