The most Na`vi way....

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`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

As far as word order goes, what is the most 'Na`vi' way to say the following sentence?

Tsun ngal pivlltxe lì`fyat leNa`vi srak

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Tirea Aean

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on January 06, 2011, 10:56:25 PM
As far as word order goes, what is the most 'Na`vi' way to say the following sentence?

Tsun ngal pivlltxe lì`fyat leNa`vi srak

srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe?

would be one of my votes.

'Oma Tirea

I have used Srake tsun nga pivlltxe leNa'via lì'fya?

...although replacing "leNa'via lì'fya" with "NìNa'vi" works too :)

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Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 06, 2011, 10:57:32 PM
Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on January 06, 2011, 10:56:25 PM
As far as word order goes, what is the most 'Na`vi' way to say the following sentence?

Tsun ngal pivlltxe lì`fyat leNa`vi srak

srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe?

would be one of my votes.

Sran this is what I use. Well...with a slightly different word order ;)

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Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on January 06, 2011, 11:32:35 PM
I have used Srake tsun nga pivlltxe leNa'via lì'fya?

...although replacing "leNa'via lì'fya" with "NìNa'vi" works too :)



how does that work?

that says to me:

[can you] [the Na'vi language speaks]?

which is the subject of plltxe? there are no cases there. and surely the language doesnt speak O.O or did you forget a fa, which would would make it ok.

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 06, 2011, 11:53:39 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on January 06, 2011, 11:32:35 PM
I have used Srake tsun nga pivlltxe leNa'via lì'fya?

...although replacing "leNa'via lì'fya" with "NìNa'vi" works too :)



how does that work?

that says to me:

[can you] [the Na'vi language speaks]?

which is the subject of plltxe? there are no cases there. and surely the language doesnt speak O.O or did you forget a fa, which would would make it ok.

I'm not 100 percent sure what you are getting at here, ma Tirea.

If we take SxKxawng's attempt at this:

Srake tsun nga pivlltxe leNa'via lì'fya?

We find that somewhere along the line, the patietive case marker got stripped off of lì`fya.
Thus, here is what seems to be the one most people are liking (I think) with the correction:

Srake tsun nga pivlltxe leNa'via lì'fyat

Is this better?

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Tirea Aean

I still vote

srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe.

cuz in english we say can you speak the na'vi language. we dont say can you speak Na'vily. its less English and therefore more Na'vi and thus better answers your question imo.

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Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 07, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
I still vote

srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe.

cuz in english we say can you speak the na'vi language. we dont say can you speak Na'vily. its less English and therefore more Na'vi and thus better answers your question imo.
Less English doesn't necessarily mean more Na'vi, but I agree with you that the above is probably the best way to ask this question. Na'vi often seems to favor adverbs when it comes to things like these.
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Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 07, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
I still vote

srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe.

cuz in english we say can you speak the na'vi language. we dont say can you speak Na'vily. its less English and therefore more Na'vi and thus better answers your question imo.

Agree. But I would say it as Tsun nga pivlltxe nìNa'vi srak. though there is almost no difference - just different word order ;)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

Quote from: Kemaweyan on January 07, 2011, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 07, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
I still vote

srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe.

cuz in english we say can you speak the na'vi language. we dont say can you speak Na'vily. its less English and therefore more Na'vi and thus better answers your question imo.

Agree. But I would say it as Tsun nga pivlltxe nìNa'vi srak. though there is almost no difference - just different word order ;)

thats like a copy of english word order >.<

can you speak Na'vi ? HRH

Kemaweyan

That's a copy of this ;D

  modal - subject - (stuff) - verb - (stuff)

like

  tsun oe ngahu pivängkxo
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

Quote from: Kemaweyan on January 07, 2011, 01:23:29 PM
That's a copy of this ;D

  modal - subject - (stuff) - verb - (stuff)

like

  tsun oe ngahu pivängkxo

the only times I saw frommer ask a srak question in Na'vi that isnt ngaru lu fpom srak:

Quotesrake Säli holum
QuoteFor "Are you coming?" we usually say:

(5) Srake nga za'u?
QuoteNga za'u fìtseng pxìm srak?

its almost like a reverse... In English:

he must eat.
must he eat?

in Na'vi:

zene po yivom.
po zene yivom srak?

but really i dont care about the word order. its a choice.

nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe srak? is my vote.

Kamean

#12
I vote for Tsun nga pivlltxe' nìNa'vi srak?
But I also like Srake nga tsun nìNa'vi pivlltxe'? As Frommerian Srake smon ngar oeyä pxeylan?
I use both of it.
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Kemaweyan

Nìngay ke tsranten :) All of these are correct ;)

P.S. Srake smon ngar oeyä pxeylan? ;)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Kamean

Of course ngar. This is typo.
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Sireayä mokri

I'd vote for nìNa'vi tsun nga pivlltxe srak, because it's all about speaking nìNa'vi :)
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on January 07, 2011, 02:09:49 PM
I'd vote for nìNa'vi tsun nga pivlltxe srak, because it's all about speaking nìNa'vi :)

how does writing it in that order put emphasis on that?

if you really want emhasis, use topic...

lì'fyari lena'vi...

but my vote still hasn't changed :D

Kemaweyan

Lì'fyari leNa'vi tsun nga pivlltxe srak? ??? Interesting.. but I also prefer an adverb nìNa'vi ;)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

Quote from: Kemaweyan on January 07, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
Lì'fyari leNa'vi tsun nga pivlltxe srak? ??? Interesting.. but I also prefer an adverb nìNa'vi ;)

kop oe

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 07, 2011, 02:20:10 PM
how does writing it in that order put emphasis on that?

First things first :)
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